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Why would Tulo sign there if they planned on signing MM?

Definitely an interesting development. At major league min, it’s a no risk move for the Yanks, even if they’re serious about Machado. But why would Tulo agree to that deal with the Yanks if Machado was signing there too?

Dear lord the shit thrown at the wall is so dumb. Baseball free agency is a joke at this point.

It won’t be significantly less.

Let them pay Harper $400M to be their future first baseman.

I really have zero interest in trading Rodon unless someone wants to act like he’s an ace. I’d probably do it for Senzel, but Reds don’t do that deal. Rodon still has the chance to be an absolute stud.

It doesn’t make any sense unless more pieces involved. I am thinking Sox just checked in, I doubt their interest is that extensive. As others have said, it doesn’t make much sense. But I would probably consider EE + Mallex Smith + a couple million for Alonso if the Sox miss out Machado.

I’d take that deal over our McCann deal 100/100 times.

Wow, I’d be surprised if he bests that.

I think Gio has a FAR greater than 50/50 shot of being in the rotation by mid season. Unless this team finds themselves in contention in July and Gio is still a garbage fire, there is zero reason for them not to continue to let him try to figure it out.

I think santana May be done. He was topping out in the mid 80s in his rehab last summer. But if he gets a clean bill of health, I’d roll the dice and he should be pretty cheap. My top two choices remaining on FA market are Kikuchi and Pomeranz for the price.

Let him be!

No offense, but I don’t think many are putting any stock in the rumor that he was ready to sign when in a Chicago. Nothing that has happened since indicates that was a factual report. He well may still become a White Sox. But he wasn’t ready to sign early last week.

You’re ChiSoxFanMike?

And the sample size of the onfield play of the top players we've traded for is pretty small. These are young guys playing arguably the hardest professional sport on the planet. Most great MLB players are not great in their first taste. A big step is definitely needed next season as the next wave of guys acquired arrive or get closer to arriving. Adding a legit star to the mix can only help.

Anybody who says that the Sox (or Phillies for that matter) have basically no chance at either free agent are in 1 of 2 groups. 1) They're not paying attention or are generally clueless. Or 2) They're so accustomed to viewing things in a negative light that they are literally unable to see the information in front of them and analyze appropriately. I have no doubt that both MM and Harper have a list of teams in which they're prefer to go to over others, all things being equal. I have a fair amount of confidence that the White Sox are not in either guy's top 3-5 teams. But all things are not equal, and when talking about hundred of millions of dollars, which are likely the most important factor, pretty much everything else can be thrown out. Harper is down to the Sox, Phillies (which has been stated he isn't interested), the Dodgers (who still have massive payroll issues if they plan to stay under the luxury tax) and the Cubs (who must drop a ton of salary to add him). Maybe a team like the Braves jump in if hte price drops enough. But his market is not robust. Machado? Yankees, White Sox, Phillies.......and that is pretty much it. I too think pretty much any team would add him if the price fell far enough, but we all know at a minimum he's getting $38-40M AAV over the next half decade. I think the line would be long if he is willing to sign a 5 year - $200M deal. But I doubt that he is. The Sox are very much still alive. I happen to think Harper is a long shot, but I think the chances at MM are very real. And he is by far my preferred guy of the two.

me thinks $10-$20M is significant even for Machado and Harper.

Well by your logic, it would have then leaked that he is going elsewhere. There doesn't seem to any smoke with him leaguewide. I think it definitely possible its Kikuchi.

Nothing on Kikuchi has leaked though.

So it doesn't work like the old rules where one team wins the bidding, and then the contract is negotiated? He just signs with whomever he wants, and then his current club gets a cut?

.280/.350/.520 is a pretty solid improvement over his 2018 season for a soon to be 39 year old. I think it is much longer likely you see something like .235/.320/.500. He'll probably hit 30-35 homers though.

Does he actually to have a deal agreed to by Jan 2nd, or just a team selected and then the negotiations begin on contract? I apologize, I am not up to speed on the new posting rules.

Add Ottavino, and IMO, our pen becomes fairly deep, with a long roster of guys in AAA as insurance. That alone should be a huge improvement over last season.

What did he say? I went back and couldn't find it. Nevermind: In the original post of the the thread - was looking for Buerhle>Wood post.

A tad more than I thought he'd get. $14.3M is not nothing for a one dimensional player that is quickly approaching 40. But it is hard for a one year deal to go too sour. This also locks Sano into 3B for the Twins, and he is pretty terrible at 3B. The Twins new front office really likes trying to build a squad off stopgap players.