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Abreu almost certainly will get a QO offer after 2019 unless he has a disastrous season. At this point, I'd rather give OF at bats to Delmonico, Leury, Engel and Cordell than Avi. Hell, even Rondon if the news of him playing the OF is for real. And obviously Eloy is taking over RF by May. I think we see an alignment of Delmonico, Engel, Palka/Cordell/FA/whoever, until Eloy comes up. Obviously adding a real FA OF helps. I see basically no upside to keeping Avi. Even if he puts together another 2017, you aren't getting anything of value for him. Just move on.

Ryan LaMarre is a 30 year old journeyman with a career .238/.283/.322 slashline (albeit in a fairly limited number of ML plate appearances). He's played for 5 major league teams in 4 seasons. He is definition of a AAAA fodder and at best an injury fill-in for a couple weeks at the major league level. His solid 71 plate appearance sample with the Sox doesn't change any of that. Cordell really struggled this season after being injured for the majority of the past 2 seasons. But he actually has some upside and versatility, and was in demand across the league as recently as last winter. The Sox may not keep Cordell around (I think thye will), but they aren't going to remove him from the 40 man to keep Ryan LaMarre.

A few people in this thread have said they want him gone....

Not sure, interesting question.

There is basically a 0% chance that Ruiz and Vieria are "gone". They may not be with the Sox to start 2018, but barring trade, will most definitely be in the organization as both were just added to the 40 man this year and have plenty of options. Cordell and Tilson are borderline and could go either way. I'd be shocked if LaMarre is in the organization come the Winter Meetings. This guy is not a long term piece, and while he was decent with the Sox this year, there is no reason to keep him around IMO. Also, DelmonicO has at least 1 option left, so he definitely isn't getting "released".

I would add guys like Anderson, Giolito, Lopez, Rodon and some of the young pen arms, because if those guys never develop into consistently good and well-rounded players, this thing is never going anywhere.

No. He was added in May. Just the beginning of the 40 man purge.

A 1st baseman?

Are those the consensus top 3 right now?

Engel and Moncada also in the top 25. Interesting to see Semien at #3.

Lol? Seriously? Chunky? The guy is a physical specimen.

You're just flat out wrong here. There are a few guys in that list that should, and will be, "flushed". The vast majority are not.

Yah, it surprised me as well. It may have been due to innings. He pitched 146.2 this season after 91.2 in 2017. He had a tough end to the season, so perhaps he was dealing with some arm soreness. Or maybe the Sox just aren't that enamored with him. I guess we'll find out.

I think Stephens would be one of the first few names off the board if the Sox left him unprotected. He's definitely MLB bullpen material. He'll be added. I could see it going either way with Adams. What prospects of note would be left unprotected based on this list?

Releasing controllable and cheap players like Covey, Fulmer, Ruiz, Vieria, Cordell, Leury, Tilson, and Bummer makes absolutely zero sense and stating otherwise exhibits a rather stark lack of understanding of the game and is just meatball talk. Gomez, Gonzalez, Santiago, Scahill, Shields, and LaMarre are all very likely gone. As is whoever Castro is, because we don't have a Castro on the 40 man. Jones will be retained because its cheaper to retain him than buy him out. By the way - Merkin made a post on twitter about Nate's option and appeared not to know this. Pretty embarrassing. Farquhar is a unique situation and I hope the Sox bring him back on a minors deal. Minaya and Tilson are probably DFA'd to make 40 man room, but Minaya was pretty decent at times this year so may be retained. I'd non-tender Avi, but I could see it going both ways. Same thing for Leury, but I'd keep Leury around.

By this logic, there are like 5-6 teams in baseball that any FA would want to sign with. I just don't buy it.

That entire was was in jest, just FYI.

I don't know. I felt better about things pre Kopech injury, for sure. I look across the AL, and I don't see a ton of teams outside of the Yankees and Red Sox, and wish I had their crop of young players more than the Sox. I also don't believe that the White Sox are universally considered a bottom of the barrel option for all FA like most Sox fans seems to believe.

I hope the Sox find a way to keep Kevan Smith around. ie: dump Wellington to the highest bidder.

Her instagram comments with the pictures in the article made it fairly obvious.

Was it the pressures he did not like, or the fact that his teammates weren't faithful and it bothered him?

Because the White Sox appear positioned to be one of the best teams in the AL over the next decade. The only teams that appear to be positioned better at the Red Sox (who he hates - but I still think are a huge risk) and the Yankees (whom already have a young 3B entrenched). I am far from convinced MM will be on the White Sox, but I do think they'll take a run at him, and I don't think he'll need to be paid at $75M premium to sign with the Sox (which IMO is big time chicken little crazy talk).

BUT BUT BUT it fits his narrative. So there's that.

The only way it makes sense to keep Avi is if they plan to sign a true CF like Aj Pollock, which I highly doubt is in the plans.

Hadn't thought of it that way, but that makes some sense I guess