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I really like the trade. I think it is a good move and I am not going to lose any sleep over what we gave up. However, I think this makes improving the OF defense tough, which I think needs to be a priority. I had more or less penciled in a (close to) everyday OF alignment of Eaton-Thompson-Avi / FA pick up. Without Thompson, it goes back to Melky-Eaton-Avi/FA. I think this team really needs two OF....one of Upton/Gordon/Cespedes, and a lesser guy who preferably bats LH if you go with Upton or Cespedes. Someone like Parra or Span who can platoon with Avi, which gets him out of the OF against RHP, and also moves Melky to DH most days which I think is necessary. vs. RHP Gordon/Upton/Cespedes (in order of my preference) Eaton Parra/Span DH: Melky vs. LHP Gordon/Upton/Cespedes Eaton Avi DH: Melky LaRoche becomes late inning defensive replacement and gets the occasional start against RHP. This is probably unlikely, but I think this is what makes the White Sox a real contender.

I really like the trade. I think it is a good move and I am not going to lose any sleep over what we gave up. However, I think this makes improving the OF defense tough, which I think needs to be a priority. I had more or less penciled in a (close to) everyday OF alignment of Eaton-Thompson-Avi / FA pick up. Without Thompson, it goes back to Melky-Eaton-Avi/FA. I think this team really needs two OF....one of Upton/Gordon/Cespedes, and a lesser guy who preferably bats LH if you go with Upton or Cespedes. Someone like Parra or Span who can platoon with Avi, which gets him out of the OF against RHP, and also moves Melky to DH most days which I think is necessary. vs. RHP Gordon/Upton/Cespedes (in order of my preference) Eaton Parra/Span DH: Melky vs. LHP Gordon/Upton/Cespedes Eaton Avi DH: Melky LaRoche becomes late inning defensive replacement and gets the occasional start against RHP. This is probably unlikely, but I think this is what makes the White Sox a real contender.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 01:26 PM) He's an all star. We have someone to root for in home run derby. Meanwhile, the team and org. got worse. The Sox had stabilized 3B. The weaknesses were OF defense and a mediocre bullpen. So what did they do? Traded a OF who plays impeccable D and hit nearly .900 OPS. Brilliant! They traded a pitcher who could have been an actual stopper, of which there is exactly one. They cry about lack of hitting, so they traded an IF who can hit!!!! Oh, and they crowded out yet another young IF. 2B wasn't an issue. We had great D there from a YOUNG player (which, I know, is a negative on the Sox). This org's disdain for young players is beyond belief. The irony of course is that at least 2 of those guys, if not all 3, will make the 92 win Dodgers 25 man. But they weren't good enough for the 25 man of Robbie and Cooper's 76 win Sox. Trayce Thompson has a .748 OPS in seven minor league seasons. You complain about defense, but then complain because they traded a 2B who cant play any. Use your brains.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 01:25 PM) I think that a lot of people share their initial reactions before allowing some time to think about it and let other posts influence how they feel. I learned about the trade about an hour after it happened, and as I read the initial posts my feeling was that "I hope we didn't just trade all 3 of those guys for just Frazier..." As a fan, I was excited to see if TT could stick in our outfield, and to see if Montas could help the back end of our bullpen. Micah Johnson I wasn't excited about. Losing those "exciting" things hurts, initially. And then, add the idea that worries me along with several other posters, that Frazier will struggle in the AL, and right away it seems like we paid too much. I was about ready to post as such. But I kept reading the thread and thoughts others have shared. The fact that we didn't have to trade Anderson or Fulmer. The significant detractors of the 3 prospects we traded. Frazier is a power hitter that this lineup desperately needs while also being above average defensively. Initially, I was kind of upset, but with most trades that happen, after the initial feelings a general contentedness settles in and I feel better. However, I absolutely agree that if you want to contend, you need to upgrade RF or LF, or both. Avi carries considerable risk as a starting OF for us. Our team is going to be much better off with Avi in AAA being a depth piece for us should one of our starting OFs get injured. Nice post. I agree.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:37 PM) Was already planning on that. At least this year when they're below .500 I won't be nearly as annoyed, I just won't care. And maybe we won't have to read the negative Nancy BS you spew on here everyday. Do us all a favor...

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:30 PM) Greensox and Alexeihyeess would find a reason to complain if they found a million dollars on the ground. It wasn't a mint 2015-$1,000,000 bill, but instead of a bill from 1986. It's garbage.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) I still wish we could get a left handed bat. I presume Avi will get a platoon type role (which is fine). Maybe a cheaper guy like Parra makes sense.

QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:20 AM) f*** YOU KW , Trayce?!? really f*** LOL.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) This is selling high on Trayce Thompson. Good move. THIS x1000.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:18 AM) If Either is coming back as well, if it's really Montas-Micha-Trayce, I LOVE IT. Indeed, especially if we get some salary relief.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:17 AM) Micah and Trace to Dodgers ???? According to whom???

QUOTE (ypres @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:16 AM) I don't like this. If Montas turns into Frazier, and you don't like it....well....

So much for being productive today.....

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:09 AM) Ben Carsley ‏@BenCarsley 1m1 minute ago Mau and Montas for Craig and Ethier. Big win for the Dodgers. Who is Mau and Craig? And who is Ben Carsley?? I will wait to judge until we hear the real details.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 04:21 PM) I don't understand the motive or the feasibility of trading for a couple of 20 year old prospects. Can you elaborate on the rationale for trading Engel and Johnson for Dominic Smith and Harold Ramirez? That's what you don't understand about that post? Pretty much every trade proposal is way off base.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) If the Sox sign Freese, I will not attend a game. He is not what this team needs. Especially spending 10 million a year on him through his 33-35 aged years when you know he'll miss at least 20-25 games each year. I won't go that far but Freese is a worst case scenario for me. I'd much prefer a Lawrie-Saladino-Sanchez infield that a Freese-Saladino/Sanchez-Lawrie infield. That is $10M in AAV that needs to be spent on a better player.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 10:49 AM) If this means the Sox are standing firm on not dealing Anderson/Fulmer/Rodon/Q then this is excellent news. There are better ways to upgrade the offense then dealing a potential cornerstone. There is no way Rodon or Q are being moved for someone that doesn't have 4 or more years of control, and is an impact bat. In reality, Rodon is probably untouchable. The fact that CIN even went there is comical. But I am glad to see Hahn sticking to his guns on Anderson and Fulmer (more reasonable asks, but still not guys I am moving for a 2 years of Frazier).

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 10:07 AM) LOL! LOL!x2

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 08:08 AM) Suarez is not the long term solution. He's more likely to end up a utility infielder ala Ramon Santiago. There's no way they trade Frazier/Cozart/Mesoraco...any combination of two out of three...for less than Anderson/Fulmer but more likely Quintana or Rodon as the target. Then they won't be trading with the White Sox, and likely will be holding those three while they lose 90-100 games the next two years.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 07:42 PM) If the Sox don't acquire a SS, I'd be more comfortable trying Sanchez in the 2 hole, than Saladino. I like Tyler, but I don't think that he profiles well at that spot in the lineup. That is where Sanchez has regularly hit, and where he has had his best success. However, he would have to improve significantly, over his Big League performance. last year. You're way too obsessed with trying to fit guys into a prototypical spot in the lineup. While it's nice to have guys whose games generally fit into a spot in the lineup, it really shouldn't be priority #1. There are plenty of guys that could bat in any spot in the order.

QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:49 AM) He went through the organisations that he did because he was blocked by All-Star MLB talent. Toronto - he had Bautista and Encarnacion ahead of him and was DFA'd to free up roster room. Dodgers - He had Gonzalez ahead of him and was DFA'd to make room for Corey Seager Orioles - DFA'd him after picking up Hoes. Had him for 2 months. Mariners - DFA'd him after picking up Lind. He's available at the moment. I reckon we pick him up on a minor league deal with an invite to Spring training ready to come in when we eventually DFA La Roche. His stats last year was .251 with 18 homers and 79 RBI's in AAA. What is your obsession with Wilkins??

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:35 AM) If I am trading Tim Anderson, I am getting a young cornerstone player back with some real control. This. Thankfully it appears Hahn agrees.

Not a huge Cespedes guy. I'd prefer Upton. Cespedes doesn't walk much, and while he has a cannon for an arm, he isn't a GREAT OF, but he's definitely an improvement over Melky/Avi. I'd definitely take him, but think he's going to get paid much much more than he's worth, but in todays game, that's pretty much the case with every FA.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) LaRoche is a substitute for them eating cash on Gonzalez. No one is taking LaRoche.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 07:09 AM) I would trade Tim Anderson before i consider dealing Trayce Thompson. Trayce came up and made all the other outfielders on this team look below average to adequate defensively. He also impressed with the bat, yet it was a small sample size and Robin kept benching him for some reason? I'm not saying a want to trade Anderson, but IMO Trayce is going to be a special outfielder! I hope Trayce tuns into a quality ML OF as much as anyone here. But people are putting wayyyyyyy too much stock into his cup of coffee. He should in the Sox plans no doubt, but there is no any the Sox value him more than Anderson. Zero.