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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:42 PM) Well, the whipping boy is gone. I'm not a Flowers hater by any means. I hope he does well in the NL. I still say he and Soto were light years better than our current combo at catcher will be. Lightyears eh?

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:37 PM) I think you read that wrong. I don't think so, but if I misunderstood it, it still means he's comparing Trayce to Inciarte due to them both having underwhelming minor league stats. Still a stretch, because Trayce had a nice few weeks and Inciarte has been a very valuable offensive piece for two major league seasons. They both do play great D, however.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:35 PM) FWIW, Inciarte is kind of like Trayce- modest minor league stats, but exploded as a major leaguer. Trayce has hardly exploded as a major leaguer.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:24 PM) That's with a 3rd year option worth $4 - $5.5 million. $2M, $3M and $4M option. $1.5M in games played incentives per year.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 07:53 PM) White Sox still working on their options on Day 2 of the winter meetings. Last year on Day 2, they acquired Samardzija, Robertson. https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox/status/674405593575108608 Let's see it.

This winter meetings has been boring as hell...lets get some action!!!

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 04:24 PM) Bruce Levine ‏@MLBBruceLevine 4m4 minutes ago Trace Thompson could be center field candidate and push Adam Eaton according to Ventura . Uhhhh, what? No, just no. Unless Eaton is going to LF.... I think that is what he means. Eaton is going nowhere.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 02:59 PM) BTW what if it were the Marlins asking for Tim Anderson for Jose Fernandez. LOL

And the sky is blue.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:57 AM) Didn't know we won the WS in 2012. Hahaha, Fukudome. I completely forgot about that.

Older and doesn't walk much. I'd definitely be interested in he's fairly cheap, though. Better that that giving up assets to get a guy like Lawrie.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 10:08 PM) Please don't tell me that you would spend all that money on a guy like Hayward, and then have a lineup with Adam LaRoche batting cleanup!!!! I don't want to see him anywhere near the heart of the order. Hah, get ready to be disappointed because if he's on threat, he'll like be batting 4,5 or 6. On the team* not threat. Damn autocorrect

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:55 PM) Chapman may have just thrown a wrench into the works, domestic incident at his house where he allegedly fired 8 gunshots and choked his girlfriend For realz?

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:45 PM) I wasn't suggesting that they give him away. I just don't see anyone giving up much for him. From the sounds of it Oakland is looking for pitching in a trade for lawrie so I doubt we would have a package built around Avi for him. Fair enough. Maybe it was the "if they can get someone to take Avi..." comment.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:38 PM) Perhaps, but I think that a cleanup hitter remains the biggest priority. Therefore, the guy they get better fill that hole. If you get a guy who is going to hit somewhere else in the lineup, who bats cleanup, behind Abreu? Not saying you don't acquire someone who fits well in the cleanup spot, but OF defense is far important in my opinion. For instance, Upton would probably be a more prototypical 4 hole hitter but Heyward would be a much better pickup due to his elite defense. Both are very nice bats, obviously.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:16 PM) If the Sox spend the kind of money needed to acquire someone like Upton, Hayward or Gordon, that would preclude any other big signings. Therefore, unless they are willing to trade a starting pitcher, the guy whom they sign better be their much needed clean up hitter. Who would fill that role better, Upton or Hayward? Upton, but that's a narrow way to analyze the situation.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million Trade OF Trayce Thompson and SP Chris Beck for 3B Brett Lawrie Trade 1B Adam LaRoche, SP Frankie Montas, OF Avisail Garcia, and SP Tyler Danish for OF Carlos Gonzalez CF Adam Eaton (L) DH Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu LF Carlos Gonzalez (L) RF Justin Upton 3B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro 2B Carlos Sanchez (L) SS Tyler Saladino Thoughts? This would make me very happy. Very White Sox, but that's why I love em.

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 07:12 PM) This makes me happy, but at the same time, other than Rodon they are the only players that will lead to a major shake up in a trade. Makes it sound like we will see much of the same as 2015 in 2016. Expect mediocre upgrades at 3rd base and maybe OF if they can get someone to take Avi... Avi is not going to be given away. The Sox will happily park him down in AAA or on the bench to start the year if upgrades are made elsewhere in the OF that push him out of the starting lineup. It's always nice to have a guy with his upside around. That doesn't mean they won't move him they can get someone like Lawrie for him.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 06:24 PM) Yep...that post fits and if a seperate discussion spurs from it, then we as mods/admins can pull it out into a separate thread. #dictator

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 04:11 PM) I could see them doing something similar to this although I'm still not sure if that is a playoff caliber team. Yep me too. I'd still prefer Heyward over Upton, though.

Miley is a much better pitcher than he showed last year.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 12:42 PM) He's been on three teams. The team that drafted him started to suck so they traded him. Then the team he got traded to changed FOs and started a rebuild. Unless you have an actual reason to put an indictment on Upton you shouldn't, because your logic is flawed here. It usually is, no?

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 11:23 AM) and he is a fa in 3 yrs I am saying Sale has an additional year of control (4), versus Fernandez 3 years.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) I think Sale should be more valuable than Fernandez.. that guy can't stay healthy and Sale has been doing it at a high level for a longer time in the more difficult AL Plus he is under control for an additional year.

As of now, yes. For whatever thats worth.