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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 03:34 PM) HuskerHickory mentions Beckham but I think Gordo signed a two year deal didn't he? Nope. 1 year / $2M.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 02:31 PM) They have one of the 5 best pitchers in baseball. They have another pitcher that has been 8th in fWAR since 2013. They also have another TOR with 6 years of control. They have a good bullpen. They have cornerstone pieces in Abreu/Eaton. There are absolutely holes. They have pitching though and loads of it. I need to see what happens this offseason before I start writing off future seasons. That's just me though. Yep. The pieces are there. I don't see how changing the manager could hurt though. Just mix it up. Robin's had his chance.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 12:38 PM) They have been trying to replacing him for two years now. Hence the Brian McCann chase. But that shouldn't stop another ownership shot. Becoming quite annoying, no doubt.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 10:16 AM) One thing just came to mind... I could really see the team making a QO to Samardjiza, who then walks. Then a trade of Quintana for their cornerstone 3B or C, plus a lot more pieces. Then the coup de grace... The re-signing of Mark Buehrle. Agreed. I wouldn't hate it (assuming they get a haul for Q), and Mark signs on the cheap (relateively). I honestly see Buehrle as a fairly likely scenario if Q is traded.

Good. The current video board is so outdated it is literally almost funny. This will be a HUGE improvement of the ballpark experience.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 05:43 PM) Not his fault but the kid can't stay healthy. If he's not healthy, he can't play... simple as that. Mark Great insight.

What an epic story.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 09:06 PM) You're just proving why he could very well be undervalued. You think of the elite pitchers in baseball, those other 9 immediately would come to mind. Q would not. What the general public thinks doesn't matter. If the Sox don't get an absolute haul, they won't trade him. That much I am convinced of. You're wasting your time worrying about it.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 05:33 PM) You absolutely do not trade underrated/undervalued assetts. I doubt he's undervalued amongst those whose opinions actually matter.

Melky will earn his contract. Not even overpaid in today's games. They'd sign Robertson too. Shark trade was fine. Gave up a bunch of nothing to get an above average pitcher that had a below average season. LaRoche sucks.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 02:20 AM) 15 years? He'll be gone as soon as he hits free agency with Boras as his rep . Consider the source.

Who is on the far right? And is that Trayce in the Tropics uni? The rest are easy.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 05:32 PM) Check my track record. Greg's opinions 'usually' come true. I'm right way more than wrong. He's gonna get paid despite being a BP pitcher. I know your record - you're a blow hard. And I was referring to your comment about Samarzijia being the worst starter in baseball. The guy has been brutal but is nowhere even remotely close to the worst SP in baseball.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 02:58 PM) It takes a lot of guts to turn down the Sox qualifying number after putting up the stats he did this season. Basically he's probably the worst starter in baseball and this joke of a sport is about to reward him with something like five years, 100 million. LOL. And the team that signs him has to pay the entire 100 million. Educate yourself.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 01:50 PM) They don't have to. Unless he blows out his arm between now and the end of the season, he will not accept a QO. No one ever has. Why would he try to re-set his free agency and come back to a place where he doesn't get along with the pitching coach and has been nothing but batting practice for almost 2 months? It isn't going to happen. I also think the QO contract is similar to the arb contract where a team can cut you in spring training and be on the hook for 20 or 25 %. Shark doesn't want to be a White Sox. The White Sox don't want Shark. I don't think he'll accept the QO, but the more I think about it, financially, it might be his best choice. Consider this - the best offer Shark may get may be something in the Ricky Nolasco / Ervin Santana range ~ 4 years and $50M. Or he can play next season for $16.5Mish (roughly 33% of the value of said 4 year contract), have a much better year, and but himself back into the $100M contract discussion. Now, I don't think he'll do that because he clearly doesn't want to pitch for the Sox, but if $$ is his main motivator, he should accept the QO.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 17, 2015 -> 09:36 AM) The organization has done stuff like this before. They tried to turn Viciedo in playing 3rd. Even Cora couldn't do anything with Fields. I never understood where the Sox ever thought this would work. You might be able to do this with someone is who is extremely talented in baseball but the organization never gets or can recognize those players. They even try this with veteran players playing positions they are not use to and sometimes it effects their overall play. He is the fans' new whipping boy. I wonder if that would be the case if the veterans weren't so unproductive. Viciedo was a 3B that was moved to the OF. Not the other way around.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2015 -> 09:02 AM) Why should he? For the love of God, why should he provide a platform for you to criticize? Someone sees it, and takes it farther. The block was an appropriate move. Whether you like him or not as a player, at least show him some respect as a human being. Would you like random people you don't know criticizing you on Twitter? +100,000,000

Gotta imagine the Sox will still give the QO, but at this point there is some risk there. On the flip side, Shark seems checked out. I think he should be done for the year. If he decides to accept the QO (which I still doubt), he better come back hungry next year or he's going to find himself out of baseball pretty quick (or playing for a few million bucks in 2017).

I gotta get one of these.

Avi at 3B...hah..now that would be must see TV!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 02:34 PM) Great posts by so many of you. No way Arenado is gonna get traded unless we offer Sale like somebody said. They won't trade him. I have no idea how Hahn fixes this mess except to for sure get rid of Melky, LaRoche, Duke, Petricka, let Lexi go and trade Avi as well. Also release Soto and Flowers or make Flowers backup catcher about 50 games. It's up to Hahn to figure out how to promote those minor leaguers worth a damn and totally revamp the team by dumping horrible players and acquiring younger free agents. Melky, Duke, Petricka and Alexei are not horrible players.

-Make qualifying offer to Shark (he rejects). -Exercise Alexei Ramirez's option -Resign Albers to 1/$2.5M deal. -Get whatever you can for Flowers Free Agents & Acquistions -Sign Jayson Heyward to 6/$150M deal -Sign Ben Zobrist to 2/$30M deal (may require 3/$40 to get it done) -Sign Fister, Latos or Kennedy to 1 year incentive laden deal -Sign John Jaso (C/1B/DH) -Trade John Danks and Adam LaRoche (+5M) for Melvin Upton Jr and Austin Hedges -Trade Avi Garcia and Micah Johnson for a C. I'd like to see Lucroy, but realize that may require another piece - maybe Michalczewski or Danish in addition to those guys. I'd lean towards moving Trey due to the addition of McMahon (see below). 1. Eaton, CF 2. Zobrist, 3B 3. Abreu, 1B 4. Heyward, RF 5. Cabrera, LF 6. Lucroy, C (DHs against LHP; Hedges catches) 7. Jaso, DH (sits versus LHP) 8. Ramirez, SS 9. Sanchez, 2B UTIL: Saladino OF: Thompson OF: Melvin Upton Jr. BC: Hedges (catches 3 times a week; Lucroy shifts to DH or 1B) #1: Sale #2: Quintana #3: Rodon #4: Johnson #5: Fister / Latos / Kennedy (Fulmer mid-season call-up) CL: Robertson SU: Jones SU: Duke MR: Putnam MR: Jennings MR: Petricka MR: Albers Other moves: Frankie Montas traded for a prospect of more need to the White Sox. 3B Ryan McMahon in the Rockies organization makes a ton of sense - blocked by Arenado, can step in for Zobrist after his 2 year expires at 3B, or Zobrist can move to 2B or OF (where ever needed) if McMahon pushes Zobrist off 3B before his contract expires.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 11:47 AM) How do you come up with "very good player?" What stats back that up? As I noted above 23rd of 24 in WAR. He may be worth $10MM to the Sox because they have no one else, but he is not good. Ok, "very" may have been a stretch. But I still like Alexei. I wouldn't argue if they declined the option and went with an internal option, but nothing on the FA market is better than Alexei. I bet that if the Sox decline the option, Alexei will come very close to matching that total in AAV, and will likely get a multi-year deal. Since mid June, Alexei has been "very" good, and that is more the ball player that I think he is. The dude is streaky, and likely will continue to be, but as I have already said, if the Sox are trying to compete for the division next year, Alexei gives them the best chance to do that, IMO.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 12:02 PM) These post all star game numbers are what is called in the trade a "salary drive" nothing more. Personally I don't think the Sox are going anywhere next year without massive changes to the front office / manager / coaching staff. That's not going to happen. So...why waste 10 million on a player who is as inconsistent as they come, will be 34, can't hit in cold weather, is a mental midget and loses concentration at the drop of a hat? Alexei showed much promise in 2008 but for the most part, like the entire team, organization has been a disappointment. Mark This post is a disappointment. Alexei's option will be picked up next year. $10M it today's game isn't all that much, and Alexei will be worth the price tag. He is still a very good player, and considering the other FA options, the option should be picked up. I wouldn't hate going with internal options at SS next year if the Sox are virtually punting the season, but with the pitching staff and the investments made last offseason, I find it very hard to believe that will happen.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) I hate to go all Vince McMahon on you but.... There is no chance in hell this team makes that 2nd wildcard. This team can't even play .500 baseball. They had a golden opportunity this year with a mediocre AL and they blew it. It's time to start thinking about 2016. Let's see what these kids can do. #letTraycePlayEveryday If the sox blew it, so did the other 10 teams who missed the playoffs.