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Given that this team has used the DL over 20 times (most for far longer than 10 days), I'm not surprised. Typical White Sox luck.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 10:35 PM) Hostetler was on the radio over the weekend and made a point amount the big increase in the scouting, analytics and minor league budget this past year. He said this priority coincided with the rebuilding philosophy That's good to know. Very good news!

Not surprised. This team has been a M*A*S*H unit the entire season. For an organization that prides itself on keeping guys healthy, something went seriously off the tracks this year. Just hope it is nothing serious or even nagging. Ever try to do anything with shin splints? Basically you can't and Moncada is a kid they are putting a tremendous amount of faith in to help turn things around.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 09:23 PM) He's had them for most of the season. It won't get substantially better until he rests in the off season. By the stumble that caused it, i would guess it's his posterior tibial tendon as the MTSS cause. A least it's not like Tilson and his constant stress reactions but it's nothing to sneeze at, they are painful. Don't know if reoccur after rest or not. For the Sox sake they better not be on-going.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 10:09 AM) Putnam is already going to miss most (if not all) of next season. And Jones is no sure thing either. Not with his injury history and coming off nerve surgery.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 01:36 PM) I was a this game sitting in RF. It was before they remodeled the stadium, so the seats still had a perfect view of the perfectly inactive bullpen in LF of the White Sox. I will never forget the bullpen door opening and the bullpen catcher coming out and putting him arms up in a WTF do you want manner. It was awful. It also was on the day the Sox retired Fisk's #72.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 08:00 PM) Leury supposedly lost it in the lights and never touched it so no error Just a point here on this. An official scorer has the right to charge an error if he or she thinks the ball should have been caught (or played) even if it wasn't touched by the defender.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 06:33 PM) It just amazes me how brutal this bullpen is. There needs to be work this off season to shore it up Why? It's not like the Sox are winning anything or really competing in 2018. Stick some of the more "experienced" minor league kids (not the top prospects) in there and see what they can do. Maybe the Sox get lucky on someone.

I'm beginning to have my doubts about Mr. Fulmer given his control issues and his overall pitching motion.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) It's OK to be pissed off and have a post like this. The team you describe would (no hyperbole) by far be the worst in baseball history. It'd be lucky to back into 40 victories. He's venting. Some fans like he and me still are upset we have to go through this right now. Some of us believe the unabashed losing is not going to be helpful to the prospects, either. Hopefully I'm wrong. But you have to admit, the owners do have it made through this popular rebuild. Everytime a salary is dumped, the fans are giddy cause we lose more and also gain can't miss prospects that someday will pay off. It's perfect for owners. They can have the lowest payroll ever, and make record profits and the fans are thrilled cause we lose more. It's really a unique time. Tanking wasn't always popular. I understand that however literally almost every single post contains conspiracy theories, inane comments and digs at JR. Look I'm not the biggest JR fan in the world, he's done some good things, he's done some things that have been extremely harmful to the franchise but I'm not willing to think he's tanking on purpose to increase his bank account, that's insane. He just gave 28 million to Robert for example. And the thought that Hahn is a secret Cub fan implying that he's out to destroy the Sox and help the Cubs is flat out insane. INSANE. That is going beyond venting which I completely understand. Maybe this guy is simply trying to get a reaction from other posters...if so, mission accomplished!

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 05:30 PM) Avi is the King of Infield hits. Hasn't been killing the ball . Can't remember his last HR but I'd venture to say he has like 1 in the last close to 2 months. I think he's had three since the All Star break but he's also missed a ton of games to.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 07:38 AM) The off season starts with Hahn trading Avi Garcia and Abreu for more prospects. This will be done in the name of a rebuild. I see it as more of a salary dump to get this team to have the lowest payroll in MLB. All this translates into more profits for JR. This leaves the team with the following lineup: 1B=Gillaspie, 2B=Moncada, SS=Anderson, 3B=Davidson, LF=L. Garcia, CF=Engle, RF=Delmonico, C=Smith. Starting Rotation Rodon, Shields, Lopez and Holland. (Hahn resigns Holland thinking that he'll have a rebound year) Bullpen= The same group who are in our present bullpen. After Rodon gets off to a good start Hahn will sign him to a contract extension. After the All Star break Hahn will then trade Rodon to the Cubs for more of their prospects. Nobody ever talks about this but Hahn is a life long Cubs fan. He never attended a White Sox game in his life until he started working for them. And finally for a job well done (Last place team with the lowest payroll=enormous profits) JR will reward Hahn with another contract extension, This may be one of the most ludicrous posts I've ever seen on any message board. If you honestly believe the stuff that you write, full of conspiracy theories and opinions that have no basis in fact, it may be time to seek professional help.

1B-Jose 2B-Moncada SS-Anderson 3B-Davidson LF-L.Garcia CF-Engel RF-A.Garcia C-Navarez DH-Delmonico SP: Rodon, Gonzales, Shields, Lopez, Giolito BULLPEN: Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp, Curly Joe (In other words stiffs, re-tread's and has been's) Total wins: Between 66 and 70 if, IF they can stay relatively healthy which they didn't come close to doing this year.

QUOTE (Donaldo @ Aug 18, 2017 -> 07:52 PM) Former Sox and Bears broadcaster Joe McConnell was elected to the Indiana Broadcast Pioneers Hall of Fame earlier this month. McConnell For those interested here is my interview with Joe: http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/in...=11&id=3734

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 11:30 PM) Isn't there some guys in AAA that will never make it that they could bring up that may not get shelled as bad? Probably not. Even on a rebuilding team Petricka sucks really, really bad.

Don't know much about this kid but he seems to have a good sense of what he's attempting to do anyway: https://www.milb.com/milb/news/chicago-whit...212/t-185364810 For those in the know, could this kid turn into a solid major league pitcher?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) White Sox yes, Bulls no. JR is a minority owner, and supposedly not even the biggest one of the ownership group when it comes to the White Sox. Over the years stories have speculated that he owns anywhere from 12% to as high as 30%. JR has never told anyone exactly how much he owns. He does however have in his contract that he runs the day to day operations, does not have to consult with the other owners on moves and can not be removed from that position unless the operation loses money consistently or he does something illegal. Also if he wishes to sell the team the other owners can not stop him unless of course they wish to buy it from him.

JR has consistently said, on Chicago Tonight in 2004, in stories in the Chicago Tribune two years ago and now in this story that he is not selling and intends to own the team until he passes away. He's not selling folks.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 07:04 AM) 1) Clippard was just moved to Houston. Another salary dump. The recent trades with KC, Yankees and Tampa Bay were nothing but salary dumps. The team traded Dan Jennings to Tampa bay for absolutely nothing. We now have Bummer as our only lefty in the bullpen. And he can't get anybody out. 2) I read yesterday that the White Sox are contemplating moving Avi Garcia and Abreu this off season. I have no doubt in my mind that both of them will be moved for prospects. More salary dumps. The team now has the worse pitching staff in MLB. Without Avi Garcia and Abreu we will have the worse offense in MLB And the lowest payroll in MLB. It's called a REBUILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY is that so hard to understand? They are SUPPOSED to be bad, historically bad, horrifically bad if at all possible. I'm sorry if that offends your sensibilities, I get where you are coming from but this is the new reality, like it or not. Deal with it. And to answer the original question, real contention starts in 2020 in my opinion.

Not a lot of guys could handle a pitch like that on the outside corner and drive it the opposite way into the seats. Very impressive.

Sox pitchers tonight: Giolito: 5 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 7 strike outs Kopech: 7 innings, 4 hits, 1 unearned run, 1 walk, 11 strike outs Hansen: 6 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 12 strike outs Hansen now has something like 150 strike outs in about 115 innings of work.

More and more I'm swinging towards the notion that when (if) these kids come up and are good RR is not the guy to lead them to the next level. Scrubs or not, how stupid do you have to be to make these kind of base running blunders and why isn't the staff able (so far) to put a stop to it. I guess that's why the vast majority of the guys on the roster right now are Triple A cannon fodder. Little actual baseball sense.

Dunning allowed one run and struck out 11 in seven innings tonight. This kid (along with Hansen) have looked VERY impressive.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 02:51 PM) The Dodgers playoff choke job is gonna be even more epic this season Let's hope not. They can beat the Cubs.

QUOTE (FloydBannister1983 @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) Awaiting Lipman's reply that attendance doesn't matter ... It does matter. Just not to the extent that it used to say back in 1957 or 1965 or 1977 or 1984.