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Story says depositions are slated for May: https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/03/26/shooting-at-white-sox-game-in-2023-still-a-mystery-with-new-another-season-opening/ This doesn't appear to be going away.

A sincere wish that all Sox fans have a good season, something to be proud of again instead of constant embarrassment. Miracles sometimes happen, the 1977 "South Side Hit Men" and the 1990 "Doin' The Little Things" White Sox come to mind. I'd absolutely settle for a season like those two. As far as the organization/franchise/front office/players? I hope they are still playing meaningful games after Memorial Day. Play Ball! ⚾

“We talk about some things specifically (in terms of team identity) that are really important to us. Defensively, first-step stuff, on the bases, maximizing our leads. But then it’s really about going out and competing. Executing plays is important, but how we go about doing it matters, right? We’re not going to make every play, that’s all right, we’ll continue to work. But we need to go out and play hard and compete. And if that’s the one thing you watch from us, then I’ll feel good about it.”---Will Venable. We'll see this season how the "fundamentals" play out. Hopefully better than the last several seasons maybe going back to 2012.

That is one pathetic roster for sure.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/03/25/nashville-mlb-ready-stadium-land/

September 15, 1990 - Owner Jerry Reinsdorf fired G.M. Larry Himes citing ‘personality differences.’ Himes drafted and signed Sox future stars like Frank Thomas, Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura and Alex Fernandez. During the press conference announcing the hiring of Ron Schueler as new G.M., Reinsdorf issued his famous ‘Point A to point B to point C’ comment. Later in a rare radio appearance he was candid on the subject to host Chet Coppock. “The fact is Larry Himes cannot get along with anybody. You can hardly find anybody in the Sox organization that wasn’t happy when Larry Himes left.”

And most of the baseball side of the front office/operation.

I agree and wish that was the case like back in the day for the Sox under Al Lopez and Eddie Stanky. If you couldn't play defense, advance runners into scoring position, drive a guy home from third with less than two out et al you'd be fined...it nothing changed you'd get benched, if you still couldn't figure it out it was back to the minor leagues for you. But those days are gone.

There is more than enough blame to go around that's what happens in a dysfunctional organization.

If the lockout lasts as long as many think it will JR may not be around himself anyway. Bottom line though the owners aren't getting that salary cap they are trying to get yet again.

We see that every year with this organization, big talk about fundamentals and then... Some of that is absolutely on the manager and coaches but also a lot of it is on frankly "baseball-stupid" players too, as well as an organization that may not be adhering to stressing fundamentals and letting players in the minor leagues get away with crap.

Yep it's absolutely coming.

No worries man but if you can offer some possible theories (based on limited knowledge I grant you since you aren't in the training room) I'd appreciate hearing them. Would like to know if you have any guesses.

Not being facetious but does it even matter? What is the difference between losing 110 games or 125 games? Both are embarrassments, just a matter of degree... correct?

Let me make my position clear especially for fans like PTAC who I respect his knowledge on things like this. I don’t really believe in the “karma” aspect but I’m still waiting for someone to offer a rational explanation for this epidemic of injuries… not just this year, not just last year but going back to 2018. Remember that season the Sox had four players to use one example, not even able to get through their first game in a Sox uniform without suffering an injury, two of those were serious. (Charlie Tilson, Matt Davidson) If I remember right it was in 2019 at one point they had nine pitchers alone of the IL. The Sox can’t keep position players healthy because of generally soft tissue injuries, now the Sox can’t keep pitchers healthy. Why? I’ve posted what I’ve been told by numerous people inside and outside the organization when I’ve done stories on this. They feel there is something seriously amiss with the Sox medical, training and conditioning staffs and overall philosophy. You can accept their comments or not but if you don’t I’d like to hear alternative theories. But I personally won’t accept the “it’s just bad luck” BS excuse. “Luck is a residue of design” – Branch Rickey Hall of Fame baseball executive. “Bad luck” doesn’t happen year after year after year. I also remind fans that Rick Hahn a few years ago, conducted a study to try to figure out why this was happening, to the best of my knowledge those results were never made public so who knows what was found. What is factual is the Sox have gone through a boatload of trainers, strength and conditioning people the last decade and little is changing. Again you ask why? For those who never saw them these were the comments from sources specifically their thoughts on the injury situation and the Sox medical, training and conditioning staffs. It was from my story in November 2022. I’d submit things really haven’t changed and have gotten worse. “Alan Thomas (Author’s Note: Thomas was the Director of Strength and Conditioning) was let go because his son was draft eligible and he was told the Sox no longer wanted to draft sons of members of the organization. Turns out his kid is playing center field for the Diamondbacks. I’m not saying he’d be playing center field for us but he’s good enough to be in the Major Leagues. I don’t know the new guy they brought in, but guys are getting hurt left and right.” (Author’s Note: I had heard Thomas disagreed with the results of the Sox injury study conducted last winter which was never released to the media or public. I was told he felt the Sox issues were only caused by the COVID restrictions. “The Sox play checkers where others teams play chess” when it comes to injury prevention, conditioning, nutrition, sleep schedules is a phrase I had heard mentioned.) “The White Sox playing shorthanded started in 2007 when Jermaine Dye got hurt and Kenny Williams refused to call up Brian Anderson or Ryan Sweeney. Maybe they were cheap, maybe they wanted to protect Herm’s record of keeping guys off the DL.” (Author’s Note: Herm Schneider was the Sox longtime head trainer and for years the Sox were among the league leaders in keeping players healthy.) “Jake Peavy made the comment one time, ‘They have no reservations about playing shorthanded.” “You know about Mike Reinold right? (Author’s Note: Reinold is the White Sox Senior Medical Advisor) He was fired by the Red Sox because he was injecting players with Toradol.” (Author’s Note: Bleacher Report had a story on this situation published in February 2013. Here is the link to that story: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1530943-ex-red-sox-trainer-mike-reinold-injected-players-with-controversial-substance) “Given the inordinate amount of soft-tissue injuries they have had you’d think that they would do a complete change in the training, conditioning and nutritional areas.” -------------------------------- I guess the only “good” to come out of this is that its not going to matter anyway, this organization is going to lose between 110-120 games again this year, but moving forward if they can’t keep their key players healthy it is going to blow up yet another rebuild attempt.

Sorry that was a typo I mean 2030. My apologies.

If JR isn't around in 2020 he won't have it.

I don't doubt it. Wonder if JR or Getz will be calling the "crack" medical team asking if they give a group discount? (Gotta save money you know...😆)

That's the White Sox way! Can't say anyone should be surprised by this news, you could see it coming from a mile away.

The Tribune put out their 125th Sox anniversary story. Well written with a bunch of historical photos: https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/03/23/chicago-white-sox-125-years-history/

He did. He was playing first base and a wild throw caused him to have to go up the line into the basepath of a runner and they collided.

This is an interesting perspective. A mediocre team buried near of the bottom of the East with practically zero chance to do anything moving forward against the top clubs. Oh and because they are owned by the Reinsdorf's hell will freeze over before the go into the luxury tax area as well as somehow be able to attract real superstars which is what you need to win in the league today.

Thank the people in charge of acquiring talent by any and all means.

Won't be the last time this year you see something like that.

I'm most excited to watch the end of the season to be able to read the excuses coming from the front office.