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Not saying a team should 'force" anyone to have surgery but to also say the team has no say in these matters is also insane in my opinion. They are paying these guys, that gives them some rights too. Again this is all much ado about nothing, all of these guys can get hurt or all of these guys can make miraculous comebacks. This organization is still going to lose 100+ games either way. Just another year hoping to last long enough to see new ownership. But as myself and others have pointed out where this is yet another example of the organization coming across like they have no idea what the hell is going on, misinformation, conflicting comments, real ambiguity.

Don't see how it could be Clevinger, Caulfield, he's not stretched out enough.

I think an employer who is paying a good salary should have some say since it impacts the team and organization. I don't see why that should be considered outlandish. Medicine is not an exact science to be sure however as has been discussed for the past several years the way the Sox are handling things, something is amiss. Not just by fans but by the media and others. Especially when they trot out G.M.'s who give misleading information (granted it may be unintentional but the damage done is just as much). Maybe consulting a witch doctor or throwing darts at a board to figure out what is wrong could give better results (LOL) 😆

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/03/20/drew-thorpe-suffers-another-setback-in-return-from-elbow-injury Six White Sox pitchers (and counting...) with injury issues. Not that it matters anything for this season which is already flushed down the toilet but moving forward it could come into play.

I'm sorry I don't agree.

Is it totally? Serious question...doesn't the team which is paying them have any say?

The list of issues and questions about the competency of those areas just gets longer it seems by the week doesn't it? Hopefully when new ownership comes in they fire every individual connected with the baseball side of the operation. That's the only way to clean out the stink and ineptness in my opinion.

Exactly. Stop screwing around with these guys 'hoping" rest and rehab will solve the issue. History shows at least with the Sox (hello Rodon, Dunning, Martin et al) that doesn't seem to be working out.

All I'll say is given the Sox history with pitchers over the past few years this seemed inevitable as Thanos would say. As someone pointed out the Sox first reported he would be ready to go for spring training, then it would be later in the spring to now this. Typical White Sox. It would be better I think if they just didn't say anything or if they felt they had to with injuries let the doctors actually speak to the press not the field manager or the general manager or the clubhouse attendant 😆 or anybody else who really don't know s%*#. Just have the TJS or whatever surgery is needed right now, stop dicking around and we'll see you next year (maybe...)

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Maybe, we'll see. But they did have 27 games where they took a lead into the 7th inning or later and lost the game last year. That's pretty hard to top.

There is one thing that I think Getz should be given credit foe (assuming it was his decision) the Sox are now starting to take seriously issues like biomechanics (they hired a person for that position last year), sleep schedules things like that. Welcome to the 21st century as I was told by an individual, “The Sox play checkers where others teams play chess” where it comes to these issues. Maybe it will start to pay off, time will tell.

I have lower disc issues that fortunately haven't reached the point where surgery is needed. I've asked folks who have had it how it went for them. Some said it was the best thing they ever did, some said it was the worst. I hope I don't ever have to make that decision. That's why to me, Montgomery having back issues at so young of an age is concerning.

53-56 although that could change at the deadline if teams actually want three or four Sox players.

For a while they absolutely did although even that caused some to wonder what was going on, a few examples from my story on the state of the team November 2022: From two different individuals who agree to speak for the story: “The White Sox playing shorthanded started in 2007 when Jermaine Dye got hurt and Kenny Williams refused to call up Brian Anderson or Ryan Sweeney. Maybe they were cheap, maybe they wanted to protect Herm’s record of keeping guys off the DL.” (Author’s Note: Herm Schneider was the Sox longtime head trainer and for years the Sox were among the league leaders in keeping players healthy.) “Jake Peavy made the comment one time, ‘They have no reservations about playing shorthanded.”

I don't root for injuries, wouldn't wish that on anybody but seeing as you say, the same stuff happen year after year, another example is the pap nonsense we hear every spring about fundamentals, yet when play begins the same stuff happens...throwing to the wrong base, missing the cut off man, can't execute a run down or advance runners into scoring position or drive guys home with less than two out...that is 100% laughable and reflective of an inept organization that can't get out of their own way. I laugh totally at the absurdity of it all, not at the players getting injured. An incompetence organization from top to bottom THAT is 100% laughable.

Luis Robert is an excellent example of health mismanagement. Guy was swinging with one arm trying to hit.

The Sox injury diagnosis situation especially for their pitchers has been really comical and a sham going back to the David Wells "shouldergate" fiasco but more recently starting with guys like Rodon, Dunning and others. I'll be the first to admit it may be no better or worse than other MLB teams but the perception around the fan base is this is simply another example of the incompetence that permeates the organization. How many team doctors, trainers and conditioning people have been hired, fired (and are sueing) in the last 10 years alone? How many teams hire a guy FIRED by the Red Sox for injecting players with a questionable (illegal?) drug??? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1530943-ex-red-sox-trainer-mike-reinold-injected-players-with-controversial-substance)

Not a sprained one as the initial diagnoses said a few days ago; from DVS story in the Sun-Times: Rojas has hairline fracture The news for infielder Josh Rojas is not as good. Venable said Rojas suffered a hairline fracture making a tag at third base Saturday. It wasn’t immediately known how much time Rojas, who initially thought he sprained the toe, will need to be ready to play. “Hopefully he’s back here with us soon,” Venable said. “From what I’ve heard, it’s pain tolerance. I don’t think there’s anything he can do running around out there that’s going to make it worse. It’s about him being comfortable and running out there. But obviously it’s fractured. He’s in some pain now. So we’ll give him his time to heal up and just do everything we can to support him.”

I'm assuming you are trolling because if you aren't I frankly don't know what to say. The only way they win 81 games is if a bunch of clubs forfeit games to them. As far as staying healthy, this dysfunctional organization can't go a week with out someone getting hurt. They thought Rojas only had a "sprained toe" wrong again doctor...it's fractured.

Cannon isn't impressing anyone this spring is he? Verlander looks like he can pitch until he is 55 (at least against the White Sox that is)

From DVS story this afternoon: Right-hander Mason Adams, projected to debut at some point this season but sidelined with a flexor strain in his right elbow, “is hoping for the best, praying for the best” in his recovery. “It’s tough but it is what it is,” Adams said two days after taking himself out of his start against the Reds. “Sets me up to deal with it. Rehab, and hopefully come back stronger and keep doing what I was doing.” Adams said another doctor will check the elbow before a timetable for his return is determined.

It is. Very depressing, the entire organization from ownership on down is depressing. I've been a fan now since 1960 when I was five. This will be my 64th season I have never in my life felt less hope than this year. It's really remarkable when you think about it how this franchise has been flushed right down the toilet. My thinking right now unless a miracle happens is I'll check the final score and that it. No sense wasting my time on anything else.

Define great please. If you mean only losing 110 games then I'm right there with you! 😆

Agreed, they look like Greek gods and are made of glass.