Jose Abreu

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jan 12, 2018 -> 11:36 AM) Why are we limited to those 2? I'd be interested in the results of a poll that included all options, because I don't think either of the two listed options will end up being the Opening Day starter

I don't see the point in not starting one of Giolito or Lopez. They're the clear 1 and 2 pitchers in our rotation as of now, and hiding them from Opening Day because they're young is pointless- they're gonna have to make high-pressure starts someday, so why not do it now when we're not trying to compete?

Lucas Giolito

QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 01:32 PM) Yep they need to bring in at least one more guy. Why? Rodon and Kopech figure to be in the plans too. That's 7 total starters. After this signing, we have enough depth

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 03:06 PM) Sure it does. That's why it's an average. In this situation you have a player who pitches pretty well most of the time but has a tendency to lose it on occasion. This can very helpful in how they use him. Maybe the blow up was after three straight days of pitching or after 3 days of not pitching. the definition of average is combining all of the performances together. it can tell you an awful lot. It's better than the "small sample size" look. Although to be honest anything less than a 110 games or so is a small sample size when looking at a full season performance Say this blow-up occasion is one time, and is not a 3-4x per season type of deal. A reliever goes 60 IP allowing 18 ER for a 2.70 ERA. On his last outing of the season, he has a total nightmare performance and pitches 1 inning, allowing 7 earned runs. His season ERA goes from 2.70 to 3.68. The average fan looks at that 3.68 ERA at the end of the year and deems him an okay middle reliever. In reality, his season was likely stellar, but his average stats like ERA are heavily skewed by that one outing. Fans in general just seem to take stats such as ERA out of context all the time. For relievers especially, I think there are far better options for judging their performance.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 09:41 AM) I will always remember that one game against Greg's Royals when if he had not pitched, his ERA would have been about over a run lower. And that's one of many reasons ERA isn't a stat that should be thrown around as often as it is for relievers. One bad outing completely shatters it, and thus makes the pitcher seem a lot worse than he actually is. Sure, the stat is simply displaying an average, but said average doesn't really say much about how good a reliever is over time.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 09:39 PM) "Over the last two seasons, Soria had 14 blown saves and a 3.89 ERA. He became a lightning rod for the frustrations of Royals fans, who had become accustomed to unprecedented success from a bullpen combination of Kelvin Herrera, Wade Davis and Greg Holland." Somehow I knew you'd reference a middle reliever's blown saves. Did you know that Mike Trout had 0 saves last year? The Angels should cut him! That statistic is just as relevant to Trout as blown saves are to a non-closer.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 06:38 PM) The fact that no team was willing to take Jake Peter in the rule 5 kind of makes you think losing him isn't going to bite you on the ass one day. The Dodgers, the team known for having endless resources and scouting and depth, clearly wanted him, which at least tells me they'll give him a shot. Rule 5 is riskier since you're stuck with him taking up a roster spot- and given how much depth they have, it would be hard for them to afford having an unproven guy taking up a spot all year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 05:55 PM) My guess is Kemp for Moustakas

Garfien tweeted 45 mins ago that he had just taped a bonus Sox podcast. Maybe he knew

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 12:13 PM) Your friend is kind of a douche... QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 12:18 PM) Some friend ? Hommie must be a young teenager. Never met him personally, I just know him through Twitter and talking about the Sox with him there. Didn't know how else to describe him, and I don't know of his age

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 12:17 PM) He told you this or you believe this? He told me

The guy who tweeted this is my friend. It's 100% fabricated, he did it to see if anyone would believe him

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 06:58 PM) Seems like a good chance to take. Also may indicate how they're leaning on Abreu. If anything, this would be a AAA depth move. The White Sox are not grooming Ji-Man Choi to be Abreu's replacement- even a temporary one. There are better, in-house options available

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 3, 2018 -> 02:38 PM) I had to update my ventra card because it was expiring but i guess i ordered a new card instead of replacing an old card and now ventra is basically saying there is no way possible for me to transfer my monthly pass to the new one so i just have to pay until the pass renews next month. Makes me long for comcast. I'm having Ventra issues myself right now. Very irritating to deal with

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 30, 2017 -> 01:18 PM) I think at very least you trade Lopez. You gave Felicio multi year money, and your best lineup features Mirotic at Center. He’s been a true pro but no use to keep him. If anything, giving Mirotic more minutes would probably make the team even better. Even if Lopez doesn't get a 1st rounder, moving him makes sense

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 30, 2017 -> 11:50 AM) That is quite literally the definition of rebuilding. And that's why the bulk of the talent acquisition of the rebuild should be over now. Dunn/Markkanen/Mirotic/Lavine have proven that they can produce at the NBA level, so trading any of them when we're already assembling a solid core would be counterintuitive. With our current roster (when healthy), this team is a big FA signing away from being a top-4 team in the East.

What the Bulls are doing this month is really incredible. 10-2 with Niko, and with Lavine, this team (barring trades) could actually slip into the playoffs. After a 3-20 start, who could've predicted that? And I hate that so many people can't wait to trade Mirotic. I know he's only signed for 2 years, but do you really want to trade someone who's playing this well? The odds we get someone as good as him with the pick we'd get are extremely low, IMO.

Yes please. He was basically just a pinch hitter last year, with the rare OF start. I'm fine with it because if he had the same pinch hitting role here, he wouldn't be taking playing time from the young guys.

Rosenthal already showed me how reliable he is when it comes to the Orioles when he said we were discussing Kopech for Machado. I don't believe any info they feed him.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 10:43 PM) Why would Kylo have any knowledge of Rey's parents if they're nobodies and she's a nobody? Dude is full of baloney The reasoning is that he saw it during one of their force connections. I don't believe it, though, and I think it gets revealed in #9 that she actually has a significant lineage.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 05:33 PM) Anybody here know why MM's stats were off last season? Plus, he is not as good as Arenado. Just sayin..... Common response from Orioles fan is that he had a "slow start". Lots of people are ok with it, but this slow start was really about 3 months, or half of the entire season. You have posters trying to DFA Abreu for a similar stint over 3 weeks, so I hope it wouldn't become a chronic issue with Machado if he played here.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 05:00 PM) Go back and forth about whether it is worth it or not, and how dumb it is to do this a year early, but Rick Hahn is 100% tipping the White Sox view of themselves on the free agent market by being a leading offer for Manny Machado. Despite what people hope, the White Sox actions here are telling completely different. Again, there are no actions. There are only reports from unreliable sources.

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QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 04:25 PM) I don't understand why we are making this idiotic decision. Just offer Machado the most amount of money next offseason. I don't understand why everyone's calling this idiotic and, in some cases, questioning Hahn's judgement. These are all rumors from, in my opinion, fairly unreliable sources. All that I really believe is we made an offer, and for all we know, the offer could've been Adams and Stephens. edit- Yes, when it comes to Baltimore, I don't trust Rosenthal