Jose Abreu

That being said, Swihart is not (yet) a "good MLB player", nor is Vazquez or Middlebrooks. You could make arguments for the others, though.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 08:20 PM) You are totally lost in this discussion. We are not talking about minor league players. We are talking about players--Betts-Swihart-Bradley that all have played in the majors this season. Bradley has 200 games, Betts 150+ over two seasons and Swihart is a rookie who will play 75 this year. .Johnson and Montas are September call-ups. I'm not the one who's lost. If you follow the chain of replies between me and SoxPride18, you'd know that this is the comment in which he referred to the players as good MLB players:

QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 08:09 PM) Are we ever going to re-sign Kruger? I sure hope so. He said he's willing to take a pay cut to stay here... unlike some people *cough* Saad

Very sorry to hear this. Wish I could help. Best of luck to you.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) I'm saying Bogaerts, Betts, Reddick and Iglesias productive players. They have some success at the MLB level. I already said that Bogaerts and Iglesias are productive. With Betts, I say give it another year and see if he's still playing at or near this level. With Reddick, I agree, although I wasn't talking about him. It seemed as if you were referring to Swihart, Vazquez, etc.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 02:17 PM) Yeah, none of those guys are overrated besides Middlebrooks. They are all average to good MLB players that I wouldn't mind having on the Sox. That's ridiculous. How can you call someone an average to good MLB player when he either A. Hasn't played in MLB, or B. Has played one MLB season or less? By your logic, Erik Johnson and Frank Montas are decent MLB players.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) What's wrong with Betts? He's put up 3.4 fWAR and 4.1 bWAR this year, has a .771 OPS at the age of 22, is a solid defender and rates very well on the basepaths. Betts has been good. Let's see if he can keep it up next year. QUOTE (SCCWS @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 02:14 PM) Josh Reddick is better than Avi. Mookie Betts hit .275 has 13 Hr and 20 stolen bases in 100 games this year while playing CF. Bradley was a AAA allstar this year and has hit .330 since he was called up. Again, you have to trade at the right time before a guy explodes. Now Iglesias and Bogaerts are probably untouchable for us unless it is a "Sale". Bradley is also close to untouchable now w Dombrowski. I think the Boston ship has sailed for Hahn. hopefully he doesn't want Ramirez. I never said Josh Reddick was worse than Avi. And I don't care who was a minor league all-star. It's not like every AAA all-star ends up being a solid MLB player.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 08:42 AM) A writer for a small website speculated that the Bulls should trade for Rudy Gay. That led to all these Facebook/Twitter posts reading "BREAKING: Bulls pursuing trade for Rudy Gay." My point is, if you see anything like that, don't believe it; it's all speculation. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) NO idea if this is legit or not, but rumor is a deal of Gibson/Dougie for Gay and draft picks is possible. http://www.bullstimes.com/bulls-trade-rumo...cking-up-steam/ *rolls eyes*

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 12:38 PM) I don't think Boston's system is overrated. In the last few years they have promoted Bogaerts and Iglesias, two young and very talented shortstops. They have also produced Reddick, Betts and now Bradley as outfielders. They also have produced 2 solid young catchers in Swihart and Vazquez. I was not a Middlebrooks fan but they were able to trade him and they also have Brock Holt who is a super sub in the mold of Zobrist. That is quite a haul in a few years. Their problem has been getting young pitchers and that may change. They have 4 or 5 either in Boston or will be in SP. Come on... you can't call these guys "solid" and whatnot when they've barely played. I'll give you Iglesias, Holt, and probably Bogaerts. The rest are overrated.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 12:02 PM) That Bears secondary could be the worst in the NFL. If they don't put pressure on a QB, they are going to have some ugly games. I agree. Mundy's gone, Jennings is gone... we have to rely on Fuller and Rolle to carry the secondary. I don't know if I like that.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 08:37 AM) Quintana is not an ace. I love him. He's a #2 though. But he's cheap and really good and they won't trade him unless they get a lot in return. IMO, the starting pitchers who are top-30 in fWAR should all be considered "aces" because, if they were all spread out on different teams, they would be the best starter on their team.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 07:40 AM) There are three pieces to Sale's value: his quality as a pitcher, his cheap contract in terms of dollars, and the number of years. The problem with dealing with the Dodgers or Red Sox is that the cheap contract doesn't mean that much to them. To get full value you would have to look at teams for him that would mean a lot such as the Astros, Royals, or pirates, or even the Cardinals. I don't know that those systems are strong enough. The The Dodgers are Red Sox may be willing to take contracts as part of the value but I don't think that really Sox much and hopefully that's not what the Sox would be looking for. As for Quintana, I'm just not sure how big that haul would be The return for Quintana should be similar to the return for Sale. They're both aces. Sale's return should only be slightly better.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 10:12 PM) Our good friend Strop acting like a total POS once again You are what you eat!

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:47 PM) 12-3 Probably will cost the Sox a few draft slots. Damn you, lights-out bullpen and clutch hitting

No win for Sale, obviously.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:37 PM) He's now up to 6th in fWAR in the National League. I think they're talking about Abreu

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) I think throwing too hard also led to him overthrowing his change-up. He threw one to Suzuki that was 90mph I feel like he often throws 89-90 MPH change-ups, no?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:20 PM) "We've been extremely open minded. Everything is on the table and we're looking at everything." (Makes no moves at trade deadline or even on waiver wire). (We're looking at everything. We were given several trade offers, but don't worry- we glanced at them.)

I guess I'll take his ERA only going up 10 points against his kryptonite. The 10 strikeouts helps him out on the road to 300.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 08:55 PM) ph shuck for avi?

QUOTE (beautox @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 08:51 PM) The Red sox have the best system in baseball right now followed by the dodgers then the rockies, the cubs have graduated a ton of talent. I think both the dodgers and the red sox make a ton of sense. The Red Sox have one of the most overrated systems in baseball, IMO. Any package for Sale would have to start with Bogaerts, and I doubt Boston would give him up.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 01:21 AM) New Macklemore song is great. The video is even better. Yeah, no. I'm assuming you mean downtown, which, to me, is your average annoying pop song.

QUOTE (beautox @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) Chris Sale could bring back a franchise altering haul, and between boston with dombrowski at the head they might be willing to sake f*** the rebuild and lets reload. Too bad Boston doesn't have enough to trade for Sale. Only the Cubs and the Dodgers can match his value with non-MLB or rookie talent.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 07:19 PM) Disappointing that they aren't throwing Johnson right into the rotation Not really. I mean, I'm all for moving Danks or Samardzija to the 'pen for the month, but that won't happen. I think he'll be named a starter soon, once Rodon reaches his limit. I hope we don't use a 6-man rotation.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 06:13 PM) I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see Thompson as anything special. I mean look at Saladino. He was scorching hot when he got called up, similar to how Thompson is doing now. Since then, Saladino has pretty much fallen off the face of the Earth. I don't think Thompson will be any different. At some point, the pitchers will adjust to him and find weaknesses in his swing. While I agree that Thompson is being overhyped and is nothing special, Saladino was hitting nowhere near as well as Thompson is.