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Arrieta is one of the best... but Shuck swung at a ball that was so far off the plate outside... Can't do that crap with a great pitcher.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 11:53 PM) Looking at the box which doesn't say much, was there a reason that Q didn't stay in there longer? I just find Robins use of the pen more of an addiction than managing. To me it's the pen where most of the mental midgets roost. Quintana was at 117 pitches.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) Go away Why.. finishing over .500 seems like a win atm...not even being facetious

It is hard to find a great closer though.. look at Rosenthal for the Cardinals and some others. They often go up and down. One thing that is very clear though.. Robertson is not worth the large contract he has.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 08:32 PM) Since this thread was created, Robertson has given up 7 runs in 4 innings. Maybe it should be deleted? That righteous indignation.... usually happens that way.

couple dramatic wins in a row...

wasn't fantastic last year... and now not fantastic this year...

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 10:42 PM) He probably would have resumed after the first one. Ridiculous they don't just suspend this now. They should suspend it. Not sure if Sale would have pitched again.. they tend to be careful with him.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 10:28 PM) Hopefully, making his team pay for his immaturity will make an impression on him. With the multiple rain delays... I doubt Sale would have pitched more than 2 innings anyway.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 10:21 PM) Looks like a suspended game is a possibility. Terrible night for the Sox. Ehh... I've seen more terrible.. but we were weak in the clutch offensively like usual.

this game is going to be suspended until tomorrow

bennetti started talking about how the tigers haven't scored when Martinez was intentionally walked... dude needs to stop that crap

If this is really what happened... just shows the incompetence top to bottom of the management/manager and so on. However.. much more information is still needed.

We really don't know... But they all need to go... Sale...Ventura... Hahn... Williams. I can't blame Sale for be tired of the losing and the JR Robots... but he needs to go as well for a lot of reasons.. one being we should be able to get a lot for him.

I'm sure they are listening.. but it would l take levels of talent or production that teams probably will not give up. And that's what it should take. Some talented prospects are not enough for Chris Sale.. you need at least some proof of MLB production. Odor would have to be at minimum part of the package.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 05:55 PM) I think Rick Hahn has done a good job actually. Some have said our weakness us ar CF and DH. I might add catcher too. I think those positions could be improved through lesser trades and free agent signings. Lesser trades meaning none of our current starters. We have a real decent nucleus If Hahn has done a good job... then why have we been so bad the past 3-4 years? Ventura? Avi Garcia? Reinsdorf? Curious.. because we are failing across the board.

I'd really like to see another manager have a shot... It may not make any difference, but the status quo hasn't been working.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) I would pass on both, personally. Don't like Gallo's high K rate. Gallo... uh no Look up his minor league stats... not very impressive.

Sale is about the only one I wouldn't consider trading.

Well frazier has been producing....Abreu looks like Avisail Garcia lately.

Nice job by Morneau... Abreu starting to look like Avi junior out there.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2016 -> 05:35 PM) Thank you for this. I am a believe in putting in your closer when you are way behind but not when you are way ahead. I don't think Ventura necessarily made a bad decision last night.. Sale was losing it. I might have left him in for at least one batter (I believe two lefties were coming up).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2016 -> 05:08 PM) He will have a solid season. The problem is, he's the 3rd highest paid closer in baseball. For that either you want a fantastic season or you want a playoff birth where he's a key figure in it. Barring that, when he does something bad, which happens in a "solid" season, people are going to be angry. Right I understand that sentiment for sure. 16 MLB pitchers had over a 90% save rate last year. Robertson is around 85% with us. That doesn't seem "fantastic" but maybe he will finish the season on fire.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 19, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) @write sox David Robertson in 2 games against KC (5/28) and SEA (6/18): 1.1 IP, 10 ER, 67.50 ERA In other 34 games: 35.2 IP, 7 ER, 1.77 ERA Robertson still has a lot of season to define his success level this year. Last night was really bad because after getting swept by the Angels that game was important for teams confidence moving forward. He still could have a solid season... The initial title and bravado of this thread was that Robertson was a "Fantastic" closer and that we should all shut up. I think that is debatable and TBD.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) I do not disagree with the claim that he's overpaid. The White Sox believed they were a closer away from being a playoff team - in that situation overpaying for a closer could be an acceptable move. The problem isn't that they spent the money on him and overpaid a closer, it's the logic that went into them believing they were a closer away. I'd agree with that.