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What is the Sox fall back OF plan ?
Bob Sacamano replied to CaliSoxFanViaSWside's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 10:22 AM) If he was using the same approach and swing, yes it would be a waste. If they want to change some things up, it is worth a shot. Nelson Cruz was a failed AAAA player until he changed some things up and/or took some booster shots. Agree he can work on some things. -
The next market inefficiency...2nd/3rd tier pitching
Bob Sacamano replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 09:00 AM) Yeah, because nobody is going to sign those two before June. Yeah they will definitely be signed. -
What is the Sox fall back OF plan ?
Bob Sacamano replied to CaliSoxFanViaSWside's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 08:48 AM) The Sox can use Avi as a platoon for LaRoche. Avi is also younger and less costly than Jackson although Jackson is a better outfielder. Avi only playing one full season and still being 24, I'd rather see get everyday at bats in AAA in the event that they decide to release LaRoche in say June/July if he's terrible, making Cabrera the DH. -
What is the Sox fall back OF plan ?
Bob Sacamano replied to CaliSoxFanViaSWside's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 08:33 AM) Any other ideas for the Sox in the event they don't sign one of Upton/Heyward/Gordon? I'm still not willing to assume the Sox sign one of those three so I refuse to get my hopes up only to have them come crashing down. Sometimes s*** just happens. I'm up in the air on Parra. I like what he did while playing for the Brewers but his numbers pretty much sucked for the Orioles. Not sure what happened there. Fowler has nice pop in his bat but I don't like his defense or the comp pick attached to him. Jackson does absolutely nothing for me. After those three the only remaining option is to look into a trade. For whom and at what cost I do not know. I do know that there are plenty of options out there and it's a buyers market so the costs should be reasonable. Cespedes* And I'm not sure what they will do. Maybe Jackson who I still want if there is money leftover to platoon with LaRoche. -
The next market inefficiency...2nd/3rd tier pitching
Bob Sacamano replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 08:25 AM) I always love the "if he was platooned correctly" line. Ventura platooned Trayce Thompson early to perfection, yet when he platooned him, people complained. He needs to be playing every day. Especially with the way bullpens are used today, if you platoon and yank a guy early, you are going to have a match up later where someone will call the manager a fool for not using players correctly. It was a lot easier when they had 15 or 16 position players on the roster. Now that it is 13 or sometimes even 12, the idea of being able to platoon all over the place is hogwash, especially when starting pitchers are making shorter appearances. Yeah he platooned Trayce at first, the 3B position last season and Konerko/Dunn in 14. I don't see how he isn't doing a good job of platooning. -
QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) OK geez some of you guys... His "see you next year "comment doesn't mean he thinks what Nightengale said is contradictory . It means see you next year ,like in a few days is next year guys. They aren't close to signing anyone so give it a few more days.. next year, get it ? I don't think anyone is referring to that part. The first part where he says Nightengale predicts one of the big 3 to sign with Sox but that they aren't even close. And then goes "ok" like he's annoyed or saying whatever. And someone making a prediction and deals not even being close aren't related really. Like all he had to say was: "Nightengale says they aren't close on anyone. See you next year." But the part before it makes it seem like he's looking at it contradictory.
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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 06:36 PM) I just have a really hard time believing that the Sox won't do anything else now considering that they've already acquired Frazier and Lawrie. Those trades and meaningless and pointless if the Sox don't add anyone else. Why upgrade two positions when at least one more substantial upgrade is necessary to turn the team from a "wildcard hopeful" into a "legit contender". The bottom line, in my opinion, is that Hahn is not done making moves and something else will be done. Right now I'm just cautiously optimistic about this team. A bit skeptical. But adding another bat would really make me enthused.
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Ah time to enjoy a good NYE and 4 day weekend.
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QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 05:54 PM) And in most cases, when a team is heavily involved like it sounds like the Sox are, if the agent of those OF's get close on a deal with another team, they are going to make a phone call to the Sox to see if they will match it. It's December 30th. We are all impatient, but let things unfold. Yeah it's not like Spring Training starts tomorrow. There's still a good amount of time left.
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QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 05:47 PM) So Nightengale on MLB Network said he believes Sox land one, then he tweets not close to deal with anyone. Ok. See you next year folks. That's not contradicting...
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QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 05:43 PM) Yep, these guys are looking for another team to get involved. Right now, it's the White Sox, Orioles, and maybe another team or two (Angels? Giants?)...I'm sure there's another team involved that I miss, but the point being, there may not be enough interest at the current demands of these players. Where is Chris Davis in all this as well? Yeah it's not that they don't want to sign with the Sox. It's about money.
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You know how disappointing it's going to be if we don't get either 3 of the big 3? So much time potentially wasted following and refreshing the news to find out if the Sox are going to make a big move.
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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 03:01 PM) Somebody is pissed: Brandon McCarthy @BMcCarthy32 5m5 minutes ago .@Dodgers This is blatant handism and I'm filing a hostile workplace grievance I forgot about him. Does he even have a spot in that rotation?
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Either way guys, to each their own. I like having that chance of not paying them for their declining years in the contract. The alternative being not having any chance at all.
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But in this scenario it's the Dodgers and their seemingly unlimited amount of money and they can absorb the hit of him picking up his option.
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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) Not trying to sound snobby, but why? I like it from a team's standpoint. You don't have to pay a guy in his possible declining years and not be tied up into bad money.
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) $16 million a year for Scott Kazmir. OK then. Because Dodgers. It was bound to happen once Happ got what, 3/39?
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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 02:35 PM) So is the new era of the opt-out clause? As a fan, I like opt out clauses. But to each their own I guess.
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It just occurred to me that they will have what, 5 draft picks in the first 2 rounds?
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 09:30 AM) Hasn't Duensing been worse than Jennings the past couple of years? Replace guys with worse guys....because. That sounds like a great plan. The fascination some have with other teams' garbage has always intrigued me. Yeah I don't get it. Unless they mean as a minor league depth piece.
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/orio...s-cespedes.html Small update.
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I know he's not as good of an outfielder as Gordon, but he's got to be better than Melky and Avi.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 01:48 AM) If you're 100% satisfied with Jennings' performance...I guess. Yep...Definitely a guy who is replaceable.
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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) Do raBBit or bucket of suck have any new info that they're willing to share with the rest of us? I would think if they did they would have posted here already.
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QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 08:27 PM) Tomorrow is Wednesday so... Which is only about 3 and a half hours away technically...hmmmm
