Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:21 AM) Hmmm, 1 year of LaRoche at 13M or Davis for 7/150M+. I'm glad we have LaRoche because I'm not interested in signing the next Adam Dunn for that amount of years and money. Oh yeah, the 7/150M that the Orioles offered was pulled off the table probably because Boras wants even more. Sorry but Davis is a bad idea. I'll take LaRoche and hope for the best, thank you. Me too. What is the market for Davis? That guy should have taken the 7/150 when, it was on the table.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) Why wait? Put LaRoche on the bench for late inning pinch hitter/defensive sub at first. I think this is what may end up happening. The Sox talked to Eaton about moving him to one of the corners to open up CF for Thompson so it looks as though the Sox plan to use Melky more at DH in '16 anyway, in some capacity. I'm hoping for Eaton LF, Thompson CF and anyone not named Avi in RF. I'm thinking as of now, they'll go with LaRoche to start with but he will be on a short leash. They probably want him and Abreu sharing time at first and DH against righties with Melky DHing, Eaton in left and Trayce in center against lefties. But like I said, if LaRoche isn't performing and Trayce starts off good out of the gate we'd likely see LaRoche shift into a bench role (or even released).

Plus signing cheap short term stop gaps is a way to help build for the future. Just like other rebuilding teams in the past, we may have someone producing early on and then trading in June/July.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) Then you have to move Lawrie to 2b where we actually have some depth and turn around and find another 3b or move Lawrie back again in 2017... Not helping much in terms of building towards 2018. I don't think this team is trying to build for 2018. If that were the case, trade everyone now for close to MLB ready prospects.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:13 AM) Last I read Alvarez was projected 8.1M and Carter at 5.6M. There's really no reason for the Brewers to even be curious about LaRoche. Sox fans just need to accept he will be with the Sox next season. Most likely. Then Melky DH in 2017.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:08 AM) We still need 3 above average MLB hitters who can field their positions reasonably well. Not impossible, but I'm doubting the FO sees it that way. And we need to do that while losing as few prospects as possible. Sign Upton or Cespedes Sign 1 of Kendrick, Freese, Murphy, Matsuda, Desmond Trade Montas, Engel, and Leyer for Charlie Blackmon Get rid of Laroche and some of his salary somehow Not impossible, just highly unlikely I forgot which analyst was talking about it, but whoever it was mentioned that Matsuda may be open to signing a one year deal to come play over here just to get the experience of living in the US and playing MLB and then figuring out if he wants to stay over here or go back to Japan next offseason. Could be an interesting 1 year option.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 12:30 AM) From a Brewers standpoint and as pointed out in the article, there are quite a few options available and those options are more productive at a cheaper price. How much would Alvarez or Carter command through arbitration? We could offer the same thing we offered the Pirates and they can pay him $5 mil. Although they'd likely prefer to sign Ike Davis, Alvarez, or Carter due to potential trade interest at the trade deadline.

If a team like the Brewers who could maybe use a stop gap, why not? They're not competing.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 11:40 AM) I could see Thompson being a right handed equivalent to Kevin Kiermaier if he reaches his full potential. Yeah not amazing with the bat but a great defensive option in center. As of right now though, I think he's the platoon partner with LaRoche (Melky DH'S against lefties, Eaton moves to left, Trayce in center).

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 10:51 AM) Chris Sale isn't a bro. Paul Konerko got mad one time too. I guess he's on the same temperament as Carlos Zambrano then? Come on now. With all his personal handshakes for different players in the dugout he kinda looks like a bro...for what it's worth. Granted who cares if a guy is a "bro"? I don't really know why you're obsessing over this for like four days.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 10:20 AM) It was posted in this thread that Mark Buehrle ( who is revered around here) said he had no problem at all with Lawrie . He was probably asked by the Sox front office about Lawrie's character before the Sox pulled the trigger on the trade. It needs to be emphasized and re-emphasized. We've probably all seen or knew athletes who were ultra competitive to the point of being dicks to umps and opposing players but with their own team mates they are the kind of guys you would want in a foxhole with you. Knowing a guy has your back is a good thing, a very good thing. Great post and couldn't agree more.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 08:43 AM) Sure, he'd get more years on the open market, but those teams aren't trading prospects for him. Does it really make sense to give up several good prospects for a guy being paid like an elite OF but only has two years of control with his red flags? Any deal they make where we give up anything significant, the Rockies definitely have to pay about 1/3. I'd rather take it all on and give a little less though and not commit 6-8 years for Cespedes or Upton (though I'd rather have Cespedes. Anyone who signs Upton will regret it in like 2 years. K's too much, average d at best, injury prone. Pass).

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 08:11 AM) I love that the writer calls CarGo at 2/$37M a bargain in this environment. I'm sorry, but I don't consider an AAV of $18.5M a bargain (for a second tier player no less) when one of the best OFs in the game just got a $23M AAV. If the Rockies expect anything of significance in return, they'll need to eat some serious salary. Saying that, I'd much rather have the Sox go after Upton or Cespedes than trade any top prospects for CarGo & salary relief. He probably could do better than 2/37 though. Maybe not his AAV but more guaranteed money over 4-5 years.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 07:59 AM) http://m.rockies.mlb.com/news/article/1594...s?tcid=tw_share Says the White Sox have been long speculated as a possible landing slot for Carlos Gonzalez but rockies looking at Quintana. Basically they are looking for stating pitching and bullpen help Can't fault them for asking. Offer Montas, an arm in the minors and Garcia and we'll take 1/3 of CarGo's salary and call it a day.

QUOTE (MDWhiteSoxFan @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 05:55 AM) He is going to get paid... 200+ Oh I know that. My comment still stands. Big deals with lots of years and multiple opt outs.

QUOTE (Blackout Friday @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 07:14 AM) Heyward is a good player being paid like a great one. Fitting for the franchise he signed with. That's free agency though. No one gets paid their worth.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 08:26 AM) I feel like the Sox did flukeishly underperform last year though. No one expected Samardzija, LaRoche, Garcia, Gillaspie, Sanchez, etc to be that bad. Even if they just played to their career averages, the Sox would've won 83-85 games last season IMO. Also in the disagree group and willing to say I expected big regression in Gillespie and a little bit of regression in Abreu, Eaton and Sale. Also was skeptical about LaRoche but I thought Melky and Samardzija would have been better. Edit: Eaton was awesome too last year I should say. He wasn't the same scrappy player from 14 but managed to hit what, 13 more homers?

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 02:20 AM) Was reading through Bleacher Report and came across an article by Jeff Passan about the possible free agent list for 2018. It's stupid good. It's almost hard to fathom the contracts some of the names will receive in 2018. Especially the way contracts have been increasing dramatically from year to year. But I thought it was a good read and a good topic of discussion. https://t.co/Q6juVf3HGL Machado as a 26 year old free agent is interesting...

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 02:21 AM) By the way as the article states the Philles have $0 on the book for 2019... Yeah because rookie contracts and arb years aren't guaranteed.

Well they don't have to move him now. They can wait to see if a team is desperate come June and July.

Michael Cuddyer is retiring forfeiting all (he may get some of it) his salary for this year. Why can't we get that lucky?

Anyone think we have the pieces to get a deal done without moving Fulmer or Anderson? It'd probably have to be more of a quantity over quality move. But I doubt the Reds have much motivation to move him right now.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 07:04 PM) From ESPN: They sure as hell better not be done with that outfield. I'm confident they're not done (not willing to bet on it though). If the team looks like this 2 months from now around the time Spring Training starts, I'm predicting a 5th place finish (4th at best).

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 06:39 PM) Those were two bad teams trying to get better, this is a really good team who has gotten a lot better. They're obviously not guaranteed anything but they're absolutely one of, if not the favorite to win it all going into the season. True that. I'm not a Cubs hater by any means and it's interesting seeing what they're doing. All we can realistically ask for as baseball fans is meaningful games in September and I think their fans are in for a treat.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 06:31 PM) You can win the offseason but that doesn't guarantee you'll win the WS. See the 2015 Chicago White Sox and 2015 San Diego Padres.