Bob Sacamano

Yeah definitely other variables. I would take the risk and hold onto him though.

I am referring to a point in time when a team that is sitting in first place in July is looking for pitching. No "knowing ahead" necessary.

Exactly. Teams that have added in the off-season will certainly be looking again. That never fails. Also, might get some surprise teams in the hunt for pitching.

I don't think it really effects trade offers much. If you're a team in first place and you still want to upgrade your rotation in the summer, those previous couple of months of service time are irrelevant. An acquiring team also saves about 2/3 salary at that point so I guess if someone is arguing service time matters, so does the financial commitment.

This^

Hopefully he pitches more like 2022 Dylan. I guess this gives us another reason to care about games.

Agree to disagree.

We're referring to teams that are in the playoff hunt trading for him at the deadline. I'm not talking about just having him for post-season, but the chase for the second half included. You're clearly misunderstanding.

Eh the service time part doesn't really matter since you would have him for the same amount of play-off runs as you would if you traded for him now.

At this point, I probably just hold onto him and see how he does with a cleaner defense behind him.

Nope. Only no-risk, no-reward types.

He's also coming off a season where he was the worst hitter in baseball. Also, bad defensively.

I can see him wanting $10M+ but I don’t think he gets it.

I feel that way too if they don’t get one in a Cease deal.

I meant at the very least. I feel like he’s going to be the OD starter for the Sox.

This idea has been kicked around here. Stroman + Cease for about the same or less than what you pay for Snell. Clarke Schmidt should not stop them from adding.

Idk this move doesn’t exactly help it move along lol

Well, if he’s somewhere between how he was last year and 2022, you probably at least get similar offers at the deadline and what’s out there now.

About to lose some leverage with the O’s.

Over what they’ve brought in he needs to play.

Another no risk, no reward move. Some get MLB deals, others get MiLB.

Cornering the market on no risk, no reward guys.

Sox signed Rafael Ortega to a MiLB deal last week. Guess it was missed and figured it wasn’t worth starting a thread.

It’s the White Sox post-rebuild plan: only count on guys here. And also added Kimbrel lol

Draft pick compensation isn’t nothing.