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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 12:05 PM) A guy like Kemp would be off of the books before we would be spending in any real amount again anyway. And the payroll will be low in 2019 (subtract Shields contract) anyway to the point where it shouldn't effect adding someone like Machado if you were willing to pay the price for him.
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 10:20 AM) The prospect they get for taking Kemp better be really, really good. It would be $43 million they can't spend on other guys including Manny Machado. Have the Dodgers kick in half his salary for 2019. It's a work around I see where the Dodgers stay under the luxury tax this year to be able to reset their penalties to extend Kershaw and sign Harper if they want and sign Darvish for 2018 and beyond.
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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 07:43 AM) I’m all for buying prospects. We practically have zero commitments beyond next season. Adding a portion of say Matt Kemp’s salary over the next two years won’t impact our ability to be major players in free agency from a dollars standpoint. The real challenge we face however is that helping out the Dodgers (or Yankees) makes them stronger competitors in next year’s free agent bonanza. Given that adding a Manny Machado type will already be an uphill battle, I think any deal where we take on a bad contract from a big spender will require a premium prospect return. While I think the Dodgers could certainly sign Machado (just need to shuffle guys around, Seager to 2B?), I think they'd be more likely to go after Harper. And yeah, I would rather pay the 2 years of Kemp instead of the 3 years of Ellsbury anyway. Yankees would have to give up something great for us to help them.
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If the Dodgers want to get creative to add Darvish and stay under the luxury tax to reset their penalty to spend big next year, couldn't a team take Kemp and pay his full 2018 salary and then have the Dodgers send like $15 mill to help cover his 2019 salary? Or take on a bad contract that is hitting luxury tax insignificant as Kemp? For example: Shields makes $21 mill this year but is annual average salary is what hits, which would be about $18.5 mill (I come out to this number because I am unsure how it is calculated with an option year so I left it off). Edit: I know that's not a great example since they wouldn't save a lot but an idea of what the Dodgers could do with someone else.
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QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 06:39 AM) Seems like it was wrote by a dodgers fan. Front? Really? Try again. Also if you aren't getting back someone in the top 50 plus another intriguing prospect outside the top 100 you better be getting back a bunch of intriguing prospects. For example the guy I'd want in their system would be Alvarez. If not Alvarez it would have to be something like Ruiz, Heredia, Brito and Marinan. As someone pointed out, there hasn't really hasn't been too many of these moves where there were big prospects. I think you have to use that Touki Toussaint deal as a guideline. I believe he was trade for only one year of Arroyo and Kemp is making me more annually. So it should definitely be worth more than him unless like you said, we get multiple intriguing guys.
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2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
Bob Sacamano replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 06:26 AM) That's bold to do both I hope they do. -
QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 04:40 PM) I'm sorry, but if the Sox can help the Dodgers cut payroll and add a solid prospect to our system in the process, I have to do that deal. The Dodgers then have more ability to sign Darvish, leaving only Arrieta on the table. If Kemp only provides veteran leadership as the 25th man off the bench, it seems worth the $ when payroll is so low right now anyway. For that matter, make a trade with the Brewers, to help them free up $ for Arrieta and kick us a prospect as well. What am I missing? Makes the Dodgers better this year and would keep them under the luxury tax this year to reset their penalties to go after Harper next year. Both these things effect the Cubs haha
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2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
Bob Sacamano replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:49 PM) What about being the Braves. Make the playoffs 15 years in a row and win it all once. That's crazy,especially with what they could put on the mound. Yes I would easily take this. It was so much for fun being a fan in the 2000s when the team was at least competitive. They did win the on championship, but just give me 6 months of good, competitive baseball season. -
2017 Offseason White Sox News, Notes, and Tweets thread
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QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 12:38 PM) Kemp would be a nice pickup at the right price. Yeah for sure. And looking at the free agent tracker, you have Morrison, Melky (teammates seemed to like him), Bautista, Duda, Ethier, and Carlos Gonzalez (rotate between DH and OF) just to name some. I wouldn't mind Davidson getting a chunk of the at bats (he'll still get a decent amount between 3B/1B/DH and based on what other positions a new primary DH can play) but I wouldn't be mad if they signed someone else. Or depending on what else comes over, a deal for Kemp. -
2017 Offseason White Sox News, Notes, and Tweets thread
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QUOTE (Username @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 12:36 PM) White Sox supposedly in the market for a DH, according to Heyman. No names from what I can tell. Probably in the Logan Morrison tier. -
2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
Bob Sacamano replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 10:37 AM) I know there are a ton of moving parts out there, but I would love to see the Cubs gets screwed by waiting so late into this off season to do something about their starters. They'll definitely add someone. If Arrieta and Darvish go elsewhere, they'll either grab Cobb or Lynn. -
2017 Offseason White Sox News, Notes, and Tweets thread
Bob Sacamano replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (oldsox @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 10:22 AM) Who did we give up in that Oakland trade for Swisher? Gio Gonzalez, Fautino de los Santos, and Ryan Sweeney. I think Gio is one of the few guys we have traded prospect-wise in the last like 15 years that has actually gone on to have a good career. Chris Young is a guy who has been around for a while as well and is more of a 4th OF/platoon type. -
QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 09:30 AM) Jeanmar Gomez #AgeGate 2018 lol something a quick Google search can solve.
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Personal Top 5 wants for the 2018 Draft
Bob Sacamano replied to KnightsOnMintSt's topic in FutureSox Board
QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 11:18 PM) I would cream my jorts for Beer in the 2nd RD. I personally have Beer pegged for one of those like 4 Royals picks between the first and second round (assuming Hosmer and Mous sign elsewhere). -
Does Willy Garcia have options left? I honestly always forget about him and never pencil him into any roster whenever I take the time to think about it. The guy's best chance of making the team are probably injuries. Another option would be for the team to think Cordell and Tilson needing time in the minors since they missed a chunk/all of last season. But even in that scenario where if one of those guys is hurt or in the minors, you probably still have 4 guys ahead of Willy Garcia for a spot (Avi and Leury Garcia, Delmonico, Engel).
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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 11:46 PM) How old is he? Baseball Reference (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gomezje01.shtml) has him turning 30 on the 10th of this month. So it's not really possible for him to have been 28 at the end of the 2017 season as suggested on the other page haha
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 07:36 PM) http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/pro...P=Jeanmar-Gomez The crazy thing is that he's only 28 years old and had 37 saves for the Phillies two years ago. When I looked up the bio, I expected him to be early to mid 30's. He's also pretty familiar with our division, which should also help. That gives you Soria, Gomez, Nate Jones and potentially Burdi who could all figure into the backend bullpen rotation. It alleviates almost all of the pressure on Jones to rush himself back and then get hurt again. He 30 this month.
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2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
Bob Sacamano replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The team with the best offer should just pull it and watch him panic and come crawling back in a few weeks. He's not good enough to warrant a mega-deal so you really wouldn't be missing out. -
Cumulus Media trying to drop White Sox/Bulls from WLS
Bob Sacamano replied to Dick Allen's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 07:06 AM) I really want the Sox on ESPN Radio 1000 because it’s a sports talk station, but I’d be happy with WGN if that means no more Ed Farmer. I can’t stand Farmer. Seems like a win-win. Either end up on a sports station or lose Farmer. -
QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 12:51 PM) There isn't a pitching staff that exists that couldn't use Chris Sale. Yeah but not many teams that would want to pay the price. Personally, I wouldn't want the Sox to pay that price.
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2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
Bob Sacamano replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 12:37 PM) They're trying to get his salary off the payroll so they can get Darvish and stay under the luxury tax. If they cut him, his money counts, so better to exhaust all possibilities of trading him before releasing him. Yeah I get that. It just seemed like from early reports they were going to cut him right away. And honestly, looking at that lineup in the playoffs and seeing the guys in the OF, they should hold onto him for a while. -
2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
Bob Sacamano replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 05:03 PM) Being the first of many, Matt Kemp is reportedly in the best shape of his life. I'm shocked the Dodgers haven't cut him yet since it seemed likely. I guess it doesn't hurt to give him a shot in Spring Training for the LF job. -
QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 11:38 AM) I'd be bummed out if we needed to fork over 150m+ to Sale as that would mean most of the guys below didn't pan out/hit ceilings or exist (Rodon's case). Rodon/Kopech/Hansen/Gio/Lopez/Dunning/Fulmer/Cease/Adams Yeah for sure. I definitely would not be interested in them signing an arm at that amount. A bat, sure (the money it would take anyway).
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Cumulus Media trying to drop White Sox/Bulls from WLS
Bob Sacamano replied to Dick Allen's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 30, 2018 -> 02:34 PM) Wait why can't Ed Farmer be involved? Yeah that seems like a pretty specific condition to the deal. -
Sox expecting to open '18 with both Avi and Abreu
Bob Sacamano replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 30, 2018 -> 12:58 PM) Avi got a ton of hate up until this past season. Even now he gets more doubt per square mile than any other player on the roster. I think the skepticism is fair. Plenty of guys have one good year in their career just as plenty of guys break out late. Let's see another season of him to decide.
