Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 04:08 PM) No need to ascribe reasons. I just posted the number because it was notable. That seems debatable. I think many of us want to turn the page on him and forget about the f*** up of a trade that is and not hang onto the past. No offense.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 01:50 PM) We almost had another school shooting in Washington. to the lady that turned her grandson in. That's awesome! What a little piece of s***.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 03:04 PM) That's the crux, though. It's all about which party is the one that decides whether or not the Cubs keep paying him. There's no situation where it wouldn't be better for the Cubs if he simply didn't have the opt-out. Even if, two years from now, Darvish is worth his contract and they decide to trade him because they don't want to risk him falling off a cliff, they're still better off doing that than if he opted out. If he ends up having a catastrophic injury in year three, everyone will say "Oh well that worked out for them," but the RISK of that injury at the time of the decision was baked into his value. He's either worth more or less than 4/81 with projections included. If he can demand more, then the Cubs are better off keeping him at that price. If he can't demand more, the Cubs still have to keep him at that price. My point is, at 33, he'd have to pitch pretty damn good the next 2 seasons to land better than 4/81.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 02:28 PM) Yep. The last 4 years are like the years on Heyward's contract. Darvish will only take them if he plays poorly and the Cubs will be stuck with them if he plays poorly. Heyward has two potential opt-outs. The first is after the 18 season and if he reaches 550 PAs in 2019, he can opt-out. Assuming no injury, he should reach the 550 but at that point it depends how well he did with the bat. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/heywaja01.shtml

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 08:04 AM) Not to go Greg here, but I think for the rebuild to be successful, the Sox are at some point going to need to look at these in house options like the Garcias, Delmonico, etc. and start seeing contributing pieces to the next contending team, rather than trade chips. If Leury Garcia is going to develop into a Zobrist type of player, the next contender could probably use that player, and he'll be 29 in 2020. Yeah that's true too. They could keep him. I was mostly referring to having more options. And I'm not really on that train of thought with Delmonico. If Delmonico can hit, it would be nice to have his lefty bat long-term. He can DH and fill in at 1B and corner OF long-term.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 07:42 AM) The upside may be tantalizing but the odds of him ever putting it altogher seem super low. Given that we have a potential superstar in Robert who could be ready by opening day 2020 (I know I’m being optimistic here), I just think we’re better off using this season developing a guy who has a better chance of serving as a potential transitional CF until Luis is ready. And in that regard, I think Leury, Cordell, & even Tilson make far more sense. Look, I won’t be upset if they give Engel one last shot, but I hope it’s a really short leash. Can’t waste too much time on a guy that has shown no ability to hit major league pitching when other attractive options exist. And I still think Leury deserves an extended look in CF after how well he performed there last year pre-injury. Leury can turn himself into an attractive trade chip. A team looking to add a Zobrist type player where he can be an everyday player at a different position. Or maybe a team has a key injury and needs a starting CF, another MI, etc.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 07:36 AM) To me, very fast and power potential is covered by athleticism. His problem is he can't find a consistent good swing and IIRC he tinkers with it constantly. As a result, he can't hit. Hopefully he can miraculously find a swing that works, and I understand why the White Sox want to let him try, but I think the most likely scenario is Leury Garcia plays the bulk of the CF time because Engel can't hit. Agreed. There will be enough at bats for the two of them anyway. And whoever starts a game on the bench can find their way into a game late as a defensive sub or pinch runner.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 06:45 AM) What need’s to happen from a political standpoint to finally see some change here? What branches of the government do the Democrats need control of to actually get some policy done? I need some hope here, because right now it just seems like the entire government is a complete & epic joke that will never do anything about gun violence. And it has been like this for a long time whether a Democrat or Republican is in the office.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 11:32 PM) Updated with the Santiago signing: CL: Joakim Soria SU: Nate Jones SU: Juan Minaya MR: Luis Avilan MR: Danny Farquhar MR: Xavier Cedeno MR: Gregory Infante LR: Hector Santiago I like 3 lefties in the pen. Especially with a bullpen of 8 guys. Assuming they open the year with an Engel/Garcia platoon in CF and have Tilson and Cordell get some at bats at AAA to open the season, your bench could be Narvaez, Saladino, and then the CF platoon (no different than last year really). This leaves room for an 8-man bullpen.

All I know is I really want the Dodgers to sign Harper lol no thanks to Yankees and f*** no to Cubs.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 02:23 PM) The Cardinals and Phillies actually make sense as competitors for his services, I just get sick of seeing people say things like the White Sox won't sign Machado because the Yankees will hand him a blank check. There's many reasons the Yankees probably wouldn't do that, and it seems like overgeneralizing to say the Yankees are going to do that because they're the Yankees. I actually expect their top priorities next offseason to be Harper and Kershaw, and I'd actually be surprised if they don't end up with Harper. It just seems like their OF is more certain than their IF, especially if they viewed Harper as a corner OF where they already have Judge and Stanton. I think the Dodgers end up coughing up the extra few mill a year (dude's already making $35 mill a year for the next 3 years. How much more could he possibly get?) plus the extra years along with going hard after Harper. They're getting under that luxury tax this year for a reason.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 01:14 PM) White Sox Talk‏Verified account @NBCSWhiteSox You never know... Joakim Soria thinks the #WhiteSox could be the surprise team in the #MLB this season Everything has to go right...but it's possible. I'm not counting on it though because it's rare that everything clicks for young players right away.

QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 01:19 PM) Good for Avi. Not a huge fan of the Sox going to arbitration twice this offseason, but whatever. Especially over the Yolmer amount of $250k. That one is odd.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 10:59 AM) Right by my office. Terrible. Bauer leaves behind a wife and a daughter. Yeah a couple blocks away from me.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 10:32 AM) I had a buddy that used to do blow and, for a while, his hookup was a member of the Braves bullpen. I couldn't even tell you the name if you asked, he wasn't a well known player, but that always tripped me out that a guy playing in MLB would be stupid enough to not only do cocaine but also sell it. I'm with you...I think the stuff is probably pretty prevalent in the league among some of the younger, single guys. What year? lol

Anyone else find it odd that someone voted for Cordell to start the season as the primary CF but doesn't even have him starting Opening Day against (as of right now) a lefty (Cordell being a righty)?

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 07:46 AM) I feel like Cordell and Tilson have missed so much time that unless they have an amazing spring, they should start out in the minors. I also think that the two guys in this group that really need to play CF almost everyday are Tilson and Engel because that will be their primary position. So that basically sets me up with Engel in CF in the majors with Leury as the super sub and then Tilson in center at AAA with Cordell taking some games there when Tilson needs a break. I could see Leury starting in center for opening day if the plan is to have our best guys out there and to use him in a super sub role where he plays more days than he doesn't, but I think the primary CF to start the year will be Engel. Yeah I think this is likely the case. Plus, does anyone actually think Tilson will be healthy on Opening Day for him to even be a factor for the job? Because I don't.

Torres is making the switch to 2B and it's possible they could try to improve over Andujar/use him as a trade chip. I could think of other teams that will likely have interest in Machado like the Cardinals (made a huge offer to Pujols and offered more money to Heyward than the Cubs did) and Phillies (low payroll) to throw two names out there. Then of course Yankees and Dodgers could likely be involved (if Dodgers miss out on Harper, they could get creative and shift Seager to 2B, really not that crazy of an idea as he wouldn't be the first player to shift for the good of the team). I would bet on many teams we wouldn't normally expect to be interested and make offers.

Is Rasmus making a comeback?

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 03:09 PM) Machado's career .329 OBP scares the living crap out of me, as well as that most of his WAR value comes from his defense. His profile doesn't seem like it will age gracefully. Honestly, I'd rather have Moustakas at 5/75 than Machado at 10/350. Way too much risk with Machado. If I were Hahn, next season would be Harper or Bust for me. We definitely have to wait and see how he bounces back from last season (granted, it was only the first half he stunk in).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 03:02 PM) Why don't baseball tickets go on sale earlier? You would think the Sox could sell a lot at Soxfest if they set up some sort of box office, without ticketmaster fees. I wondered the same.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 02:37 PM) Couple thoughts here. I'm just not personally a big fan of what Moustakes brings to the table. The left-handed power is nice, but he's always been a relatively low OBP player. His defense appears to be on the decline as well. That's not to say he can't be a useful player, but I really don't want to commit fairly big dollars to a guy who will probably be a 2 WAR/year player over the next four or five years. As for Donaldson, the dude is actually a really good athlete and has remained incredibly productive through his age 32 season. He can actually regress and still remain a valuable player. Hell, he could probably be moved to 1B at the end of a deal and still be a valuable contributor. Again, with Donaldson it all comes down to the money & years. If I can get him for five years or less (which remains to be seen), I could be willing to roll the dice if I miss out on Machado. I think Donaldson is likely to provide much more value from 2019 to 2022 than Moustakes even he ultimately costs more. And at this point in the rebuild, I'd rather gamble on upside than certainty when it comes to free agents. I really wouldn't hate signing Donaldson (as of right now). He only had the one injury plagued season last year. Guy's good and I think he will age fine through his age 33-36/37 seasons.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 02:15 PM) Well, it's HIS opt-out clause. If he has 2 great years for the Cubs, then he will be wanting to opt out, and thus he thinks he could beat 3 years/$81M. If he does bad, he won't opt out, and he gets that money anyway. So really, 4 yrs/$81M is already on the table for him, he just has to feel around if any teams can beat that offer. Which is basically what I implied and understand lol I get that it's his opt-out and didn't make it seem otherwise haha

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 02:03 PM) So 2 yrs/$45M is what Cubs fans and Darvish will be hoping for. Darvish will be hoping for the incentives as well haha but would a 32 year old Darvish be able to beat 4 years, $81 mill?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 07:46 AM) Elementary students told they can't say no when asked to dance — what's happening with school dances? https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/elementary-...-022913785.html More of that "participation trophy culture" perhaps?