Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:16 AM) The Orioles are the worst team in MLB for nixing trades at the ownership level for extremely petty reasons, yet Carlos Rodon would be the primary target? Yeah, that doesn't add up. That's an excellent point actually. They always nix trades at the physical part.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:09 AM) We can't use it because there are basically no players left to sign for $300k. And even if one pops up, would you rather have two lottery tickets or Nick Burdi? Nick Burdi for sure but I was just correcting your statement. And it is likely someone pops up as there always is someone who pops up we've never heard about.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:03 AM) The Pirates got Burdi for $500k of international bonus money while we have ~$1mil that we can't use. We can use it, we just can't use all of that on one player.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:06 AM) Well last night they were saying "by the weekend" and its thursday. But yeah, everyone's about to leave so I wouldn't expect anything to happen today unless offers leaked out. If it were yesterday right now, then maybe.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:56 AM) f*** it Im going to bed.. Bob Nightengale‏Verified account @BNightengale 8s9 seconds ago More Dan Duquette says #Orioles will continue to have trade talks involving Machado to see if something makes sense You might as well. There's been no indication they are moving him soon or a deal is close.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:42 AM) That's terrible unless were also buying Burdi Agreed. Wtf.

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:41 AM) Lol. It made a small amount of sense with a window, without one it makes a negative amount of sense. Never really expected the window. The price is more with an agreed to extension. They can buy him now at his one year cost and have a 7-month window. If they can't work something out, trade him and recoup some loss. I can get on board with this idea depending on the cost. But personally, I'd rather just try to sign him next off-season.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:28 AM) Has to be burdi right? Tocci along with something else probably. Wouldn't make sense if it is a 1-1 swap.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:26 AM) I honestly just don't get this. If you want Machado so badly, just be offer him the most amount of money in the off-season next year. Does the White Sox organization have such a great culture that he will begging to stay with us if we traded for him? This move just seems to contrary to everything Hahn has done the last year plus. I get the idea they won't be doing that.

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:19 AM) What's the 72 hour window do?? We get 72 hours to negociate a contract.. What happens if nothing is reached in that time frame? Can the trade be thrown out? Someone enlighten lil' ol' me You would agree to a deal contingent on if an extension is reached.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:17 AM) Yay more outfielders. Thought we were short on AAAA guys there. Yeah this guy doesn't seem too special.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:16 AM) Carlos Tocci? Interesting.

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:16 AM) If they are discussing these guys I would imagine a 72 hr window is involved We should hear more after the Rule 5 draft.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:15 AM) After Machado has been extended. Yeah what should change? People are on board with dealing those 2 now and then signing Machado for 2019 as is.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:13 AM) And more than likely get far less than what you gave up Yeah that would be the risk for sure. That gap is pretty much the payment for the window. But you can snag top 100 prospects at the deadline for 2 month rentals. That shouldn't change as it always happens.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:12 AM) Haven't read a single rumor since this broke again last night that makes me feel comfortable about this I'm sure teams have also been prepping for the Rule 5 draft.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:12 AM) Soxtalk would be furious if we deal Kopech, this is a fact Agreed. I didn't mean to suggest differently.

If they do pull of this move, I think I still shop Abreu and Garcia.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 08:09 AM) Eloy/Moncada/Kopech/Robert/Collins/Hansen should be off limits for sure Not sure how us going for Machado makes sense right now, but I will trust Hahn and Co. (although this has the stench of Kenny Williams) You'd pretty much be buying a 7-month negotiation window. Then you could flip to recover some value in July.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 07:24 AM) Because they are willing to trade assets to get him here to "see the culture", believing that it will trump money. Just remember, his agent got Albert Pujols out of STL, which shocked the world. There are a lot of nice places to play MLB. Money is what talks. If they are prepared to offer him the most money, it makes no sense to trade assets for him now. His agent also got the Votto extension. People say his agent isn't Boras but he might as well be.

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 07:17 AM) The #WhiteSox have no intention of flipping Manny Machado if they land him, they say, insisting he fits into their long-term plans- Nightengale Better get that checkbook out.

You can already kinda tell they don't plan on offering the most money next year if their whole idea of trading for him is they can sell him on culture and stuff like that for a year.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 07:13 AM) This makes sense and was my original plan/scenario. However, the more I think about it, I think trading him at the deadline would be counter-productive unless it were to a team with no chance of extending him. You'd pretty much be paying for a 7-month negotiation window. He can bring back a top 100 prospect at the deadline. Other rentals have throughout the years.

Orioles have no control about the beyond part and if you're trading the one year of Machado, you're not going to be good anyway for it to matter what team he is on in 2018.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 06:46 AM) https://twitter.com/danclarksports/status/941278096354787328 It could work out to where we are essentially trading an arm or two for a bat or two. Something that people seem to think happens but doesn't with prospects.