Bob Sacamano

I agree with DA. They'll make a move before it's too late but with the division they play in and the current lead they have, the Nats have time to wait a little longer before they start making moves. As long as they add BP guys before the deadline and post-season, that's all that really matters.

Currently 6th.

Days Gone looks sick af. Man I love Sony and their exclusives.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 07:21 AM) Man you guys are acting like Austin Beck was available and we passed on him for Burger. There was no easy answer at 11. I'm fine with the pick. The 5-6 main guys I wanted were all picked right before. Nothing you can do about that.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 05:41 AM) We have Davidson who looks like he can be here for several years so where does this guy fit in? Courtney Hawkins and now Burger.. Burger is never going to play third base in the majors at that weight especially with his lack of balance and mobility. He looked like his shoelaces were tied together on those ground balls. A wasted 1st round pick. Burger probably won't be ready for 2+ years. I have no problem with Davidson holding down the fort until them but not penciling him in as an important part of the future (although maybe he can be a bench corner bat and platoon with whoever is at 1B or DH).

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 06:30 PM) Passan says Wright to ATL. Is it McKay for TB?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 03:04 PM) You only choose to read what you want to read, DA. Be as judgemental of people you don't know as you'd like. In 10 years, when this poor girl goes and stabs her male teacher in high school, you can then rush in and judge her too, because people should be "responsible for their actions," and not receive any consideration of some "BS excuse." Are you really defending a child molester?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 02:58 PM) Child.......please. The poor guy had his way with a girl starting when she was 4 ending when he was caught when she was 6. We don't know, maybe something happened to OJ when he was 4 that caused him to be a POS. I prefer to hold people responsible for their actions and not search for some BS excuse. Again, his victim faces an uphill battle. That is who deserves the sympathy. She is only 11 years old right now. He's done. No team will touch him. They won't put the rest of their players through this. They won't put their fanbase through this. They won't subject themselves to all they would get for giving him a chance because he can throw a ball pretty well. There have been some real bad actors who have played professional baseball, but this offense may take the cake. Didn't someone in a thread say a Cubs official that was on one of the Score shows said they already removed him from their draft board? I would imagine most teams did this as well.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 02:34 PM) I don't think he meant to shut the door just move it out of this draft thread. Discuss all you want, in the appropriate thread. At least that's how I took his comments. Same.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) As a NC State alum, I am hoping for Joe Dunand in the 5-10th rounds. He's played decent SS, has pretty solid power, and think he could slide to 3B. He's actually the nephew of A-Rod which many of you will hate. Actually would make me want him.

What time is the draft? And will there be a thread with picks updated on the first page?

QUOTE (beautox @ Jun 11, 2017 -> 03:52 PM) The Yankees make a lot of sense but Frazier is in their immediate future, baby bombers and yankees in general are looking pretty good for 3-4 year window starting this year. DH Brett Gardner* - 33 and on the last year of his deal. C Gary Sanchez - 24 looking above average behind the dish under control for 5 years after '17 1B Greg Bird* - 24 has had some health issues and strike out issues but will get a chance to work through both of them. under control for 4 more years after '17. 2B Starling Castro - 27 looks to be back to delivering on his promise below average defensively at 2B under control for 3 years after '17 SS Didi Gregorius* - 28 above average defensively and under control for 2 more years after '17 3B Gleyber Torres - 20 has already begun seeing time at 3B full control. LF Clint Frazier - 22 likely destined for a corner where he will be average, full control as well. CF Aaron Hicks# - 28 what a steal for JR Murphy if this is for real under control for 2 more years. RF Aaron Judge - 26 under control for 4 years after this one Luis Severino is 23 and under control for 3 more years Masahiro Tanaka is 28 and if he doesn't opt out will be under control for 2 more years. Jordan Montgomery* is 24 and they'll have full control over him. their backed is locked up for at least two more years, Dellin Betances is a FA after 19, Chapman will be in the second year of his deal and Warren is a FA after '18. They will all be 30 starting next season as well. I could see the yankees QO Michael Pineda and buying out CC and bringing him back on a reduced deal. But as a whole Torres and Frazier appears to be the end of the yankees rebuild and they'll have vet back ups in Ellsbury and Headley if they need a break or stumble. Their only weakness is a TOR arm and a 5th starter provided Tanaka doesn't opt out and a solid back up catcher since Romine is garbage. having said all that i could see us matching up with them with something like Rutherford, Sheffield or Adams & Miguel Andujar for Q. You seem to have forgotten about the 4 remaining years on Ellsbury.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 11, 2017 -> 03:04 PM) Moustakas just hit his 16th homer, fwiw. That said, Frazier will have a significantly lower asking price...who else needs a 3B right now? Either one of those guys would fit well in Boston. Sandoval only at 616 ops. Obviously Todd can DH and play 1b as well. Boston and Yankees perhaps.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) For those who follow college ball more than I, does anyone keep a somewhat up to date mock of the 2018 draft? Curious to see where Beer is slotted these days. Thanks. Can't really have a mock draft without knowing the draft order. Do you mean rankings?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 01:06 AM) I really think the people that want the Sox to lose every game would be a fascinating study for a thesis on the brain of a sports fan. I think it would be discovered that deep down you are oh, so content during a so-called rebuild because you can puff your chests out and brag to Cub fans and others who would normally mock you or console you after a loss. You don't have to have your pride out there night after night during the season, your mood dependent on whether the White Sox win or lose. Now, thanks to the "rebuild" (lol on rebuild), you can (illogically but in your minds logically) smile at the antagonistic Cub fan or friend and say, 'What? I wanted to lose tonight. I got exactly what I wanted, a loss." The Cub fan or other person mocking you or consoling you for the Sox loss might add, "Oh you wanted them to lose cause you've finally come to your senses and stopped being a Sox fan?" You then would respond: "No. I want them to lose cause we are rebuilding and I want us to get the No. 1 pick in the baseball draft preferably but top three would be OK I guess." And that fan would say, "Oh," and leave the scene with the same look we all had today after John McCain's bizarre conversation with Comey. Jesus someone is obsessed with this.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 07:32 PM) Orioles have no power Trumbo, Davis and Machado beg to differ.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 01:40 PM) Avi is old news. Many fans like you want the mysterious future guy. I wonder if the young guy we take in the draft will ever have a stretch like Avi had to open this season. Some of his hits have been monumental. It's a fair question BTW. There are so many busts in the first round of the draft. Hope Avi continues to have a good season and doesn't flame out again but you can't take away what he did for 2 months. It's funny that before/beginning of the season when you used to say we should have gone for it this year and then went on to list every position we needed (spoilers: there was a lot with no solutions from you), you always listed a DH and an OF as needs. The OF would have replaced Garcia.

Here's a mock from yesterday (Ryan Phillips from thebiglead.com?): http://thebiglead.com/2017/06/07/2017-mlb-...greene-wind-up/

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) Yeah, I'd be floored if both Beck and Kendall made it to us at 11. I'd take either, but definitely want one of the two. Imagine if Haseley was there (a mock draft dated yesterday has us taking him at 11).

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 11:09 AM) I said this earlier in the thread, but I'm also no rooting for all individual players to do poorly. I want Avi to be a real baseball player, Q/Gonzo/Shields to all pitch well enough to be traded, Frazier to remember how to hit, etc. etc.....But I also want them to lose as many games as possible. I know both of those may not be possible, but that's what I'm 'rooting' for. Hopefully we can unload at the deadline and have those losses pile up. It's definitely possible for both to happen. You could have a starter go 6-7 innings giving up 2-3 runs and the bullpen comes in and does while Frazier goes 2-3 with a HR and they lose 3-1, 3-2. Or there are games where the offense does good but the starters maybe give up 4 runs. Maybe guys get hits only when no one is on base. Definitely a lot of scenarios where you can have a decent amount of guys doing well but still losing consistently.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) Me too. Hell I would probably drive him to his next destination and let him pick out the radio station. Lol same.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 10:52 AM) The problem is it isn't that simple. If you suck, that usually is because your players all suck. The Sox still have enough guys on this roster that could have trade value. Looking at what major leaguers bring back in trades versus was statistical expectations are from kids in the drafter at relative draft positions, the White Sox stand to gain MUCH more in the long term by winning 75 games because guys like Yolmer Sanchez and Avi Garcia had break out seasons and exploded their trade value than if we just outright sucked all around. Take the Sale deal. We essentially got 3 advanced and years matured first round pick talents, plus another flyer for Sale. We could do the same for Q if he pitches well. If Avi keeps hitting like an all-star we could pull another large package for him, versus his being a DFA if he has another poor season. Looking at the whole body of work, we could be talking like 10 additional top flight prospects in our system because our players are good enough to win games, versus just better draft position in each round if not. If a team offers the Sox anything of value (a top 100 prospect and a few more highly touted guys) I'd pack Avi's bags and drive him to the airport myself.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 10:48 AM) This is pretty much exactly the way I feel. Also how I feel.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) See, that's where I think you're wrong. I understand and appreciate the rebuild. The losses don't both me. It's openly rooting for losing that is ridiculous. This team isn't very good, and they are going to lose a lot, and that is fine, but turning on the game and hoping that someone like Miguel Gonzalez gets lit up so the Sox gain a game in the draft is crazy. The possible trade pieces have to at least do good.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) To each their own. I will never enjoy the White Sox losing. I don't think it's really about getting enjoyment out of their losses. Just accepting that it may be better in the long run. Fortunately for us, this is year 1 of a rebuild and whether we want them or not, the losses will pile up regardless.