Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (Tony @ May 31, 2017 -> 10:16 AM) No, that isn't what sucks the most. Q rocking a plus 5 ERA in June sucks pretty hard. Who cares what some meatballs in Houston think. Yeah idk why I typed "the most" part lol fixed for accuracy.

Also sucks that fans of other teams that said he isn't good or not an ace or worth a near Sale-like haul all probably act like they were correct all along.

QUOTE (Soha @ May 31, 2017 -> 09:48 AM) But what deal do you think they should have taken for ? The best reported deal I heard was headlined by Tyler Glasnow, who's ERA is around 7. If it's Glasnow or keep Q and suffer through his bad year, then I'll take keeping Q. Even if Q sucks the entire year, I'll still have confidence that he figures it out over the winter and is back next year. It's better than taking hot garbage for him. Best reported one I think we saw was headlined by Martes and Tucker but the Sox wanted Musgrove. We don't know how many were actually real though.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 31, 2017 -> 09:03 AM) I'm arguing that many posters here didn't fully acknowledge the risk of holding onto Quintana. The idea of keeping him for "when we are good again" was lunacy from the get-go IMO. Coming into the season, if you believed we couldn't realistically compete over the course of the next three seasons, then Jose Quintana was effectively worth whatever you projected his 2020 WAR to be us. Let's say that's 4 WAR. For another team he could have effectively been worth 15 to 18 WAR over that same period. The opportunity cost of keeping him and not receiving value from another team for his 2017 to 2019 production would have always been tremendous. Whether Hahn received an acceptable offer during the offseason, we'll never know or be able to prove. The problem I have is fair value is typically defined as what the market bares (assuming no market constraints). And given how this was one of the worst markets for starting pitching in recent history, it's hard for me to believe that not a single team was willing to pony up and pay fair value. Therefore, I'm willing to speculate that Hahn may have over-valued Quintana or under-estimated the risk of holding. I said in the game thread last night, but if teams were skeptical of Quintana being a legit TOR starter before, this bad stretch where his elite command has gone to s*** isn't going to help matters. It's at the point where I think he is here the remainder of the season. Of course, he still has 2 full months (what is that, 13-15 starts?) to up his value.

If they end up trading him by August, they likely settled on "best offer" not necessarily meaning a team is giving them what they wanted in the off-season. Of course, there is still time for him to right his season. At this point, I'm starting to think he gets moved next trade deadline (2018). Prove me wrong Q and Hahn.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:38 AM) Keeping Quintana doesn't make any sense. They need the prospects that they will ultimately get in return for him. People keep talking about 2019 but the Sox don't have many long-term answers as far as position players go. Where are those guys coming from? They are banking on Moncada, Anderson, Robert, and Collins. What if a couple of them bust though? They need to keep adding. Quintana will need a new contract by the time the Sox are good again so I just don't think keeping him makes any sense and I also don't know how this team is playoff ready in 2019. Yeah and evwn if those guys are ready in 2019, its no sure thing they will be grrat right away.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 30, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) I don't want to get my hopes up. This is the guy I decided I want. The Sox have been successful the last 3 years of getting the guy I want in the first round lol don't stop now boys!

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 30, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) It wasn't a beanball, he hit him in the hip. Next time don't stand and admire your homerun. Pitchers don't like that. What ye sow so shall ye reap. The one you can make a legit case of him waiting to see if its going to go foul or not as it was right down the line. But still, 3 years later. You wanna show him up? Get him out. Don't plunk him when you're down 3.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 30, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) Feels like we are weeks away from a David Ortiz comeback. I can see it lol

QUOTE (balfanman @ May 29, 2017 -> 12:14 PM) I agree with this. I've always liked Sanchez and thought that he would start hitting in the majors after some struggles. His minor league track record is consistent at each stop. I know Moncada is the hot prospect now and he may well turn out to be good in the majors, but as one who really values strong defense (especially up the middle) I would prefer to leave Sanchez alone and move Moncada to 3rd base or the outfield. I could see this. As long as he has the arm and hopefully his bat plays there.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 29, 2017 -> 04:56 PM) Delmonico is bonkersville right now. Only K'ing 16% of the time as well. I'm a big fan of that. Wish there was a spot for him to play right now (Davidson deserves every day at bats at DH/1B/3B).

QUOTE (Brian @ May 28, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) We're the only smart guys here who watch it. Should start our own thread. I watch! Great show.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 29, 2017 -> 10:18 PM) Buster Posey standing at home during the fight is the funniest s*** None of the infielders did anything right away. It was sh!t move to plunk a guy because he hit 2 homers against you in the post-season 3 years ago. Doubt Posey or anyone else really agreed with it.

Can't wait to watch and hope for guys to fall to our way (only watch up until our first pick but still).

......wtf

Noooooo bunting

QUOTE (Knackattack @ May 29, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) Is there a verdict out on Engel yet? Is he just going to be a nice defending 4th OF or does he look like he will hit enough to start? How can we know that after 2 games?

Is there any team that could use Sanchez? It sucks he doesn't really profile as a SS or 3B to be a reserve.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 28, 2017 -> 07:29 PM) The problem is Fulmer looks more like Addison Reed than Benintendi or Happ, lol. You can throw 92-94 without impeccable location anymore as a starter...you have to be 95-98 or have remarkable movement. Hopefully Hansen and Dunning compensate for the inconsistency/struggles at the AA and AAA level, other than Kopech. No Collins today, btw. What

QUOTE (SCCWS @ May 28, 2017 -> 08:12 AM) inst I hope not. Boston is really hot right now and obviously Sale is dominating the league. I think Q gets a better shot to improve his numbers against one of their weak starters. ? The only number he could improve is "W".

Play him everday.

If it were up to Rick Hahn, Holland and Gonzalez would be traded probably in next few weeks but it takes 2 to tango.

QUOTE (Nardiwashere @ May 26, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) So who pitches Monday and Tuesday? Price vs. Q and Sale vs. Pelfry? I'm pretty sure Pelfrey is pitching today.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ May 26, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 7s #WhiteSox place Dylan Covey on the 10-day DL, recall Juan Minaya and add Tyler Danish as the 26th man for today's doubleheader. Figured they would look to add 2 fresh arms to the team.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/...ankings/majors/ Currently 8th pick, not that far from top 5.