Everything posted by Bob Sacamano
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The Rotation and Covey Situation
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2017 -> 12:38 PM) Whatever happened to all the rebuild guys, team must lose for draft picks? The guy has sucked. He is a rule 5 guy, and there is a 99.9% chance when you throw a rule 5 guy directly in a major league rotation, he will suck. The team is going nowhere. Why are the White Sox widely criticized on this board for "rushing" prospects, but every damn time there is the first sign of a guy sucking or of a minor leaguer going on a roll, the same people who b**** about it, want them to do what they b**** about? Let guys develop. It isn't necessary to see what some of these guys can do at the major league level yet. Make sure they are ready. Let Covey get destroyed while that happens. A good week, a good 2 weeks, a good month isn't proof. If you really want a rebuild, you have to be patient or it isn't going to ever work. Agreed. Let this guy pitch and take his lumps.
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SSS Theater: Avi Garcia
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 5, 2017 -> 01:44 PM) Soxtalk, are you collectively ready to vote Avisail Garcia into the All-Star Game? Yes I am lol
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Nate Jones to 10 Day DL (retro to May 1)
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 5, 2017 -> 11:19 AM) lol, it must be a really slow day if you guys are arguing about this. Haha, I'm not arguing. My only post was the one above yours about how I always found it odd that he signed his name a different name than the one he actually uses.
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Nate Jones to 10 Day DL (retro to May 1)
QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 5, 2017 -> 11:13 AM) PTATC: Not trying to be arrogant. At least I try to "talk" conversationally with other posters and not "down" to them or try to show how clever I am with one-liners that are snarky in nature and demeaning. (Not saying you do by the way). I put my name on posts because the other sites I participate in that's the way it's done. Nothing more, nothing less. I didn't realize that doing so here makes you "arrogant." But that's fine...from now on I won't use my name anymore. Hope that makes you happy. The only thing that confuses me about you signing your name is that you use a screen name for this site as well. So I'd either just make my name "Mark" instead of "Lip Man 1" or just sign off as "Lip Man 1" instead.
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New Top 30 INTL Prospects List out from MLB
QUOTE (bmags @ May 5, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) Feels like the white sox are doing the equivelant of "burn the ships" with INTL FA spend this year. "We have to spend on Robert or Otani or else we will have signed no one else!" Yeah if they don't sign Robert and have no commitments in the next signing period, it'd almost seem like they have to sign Otani.
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5/4 - White Sox @ Royals Game Thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 4, 2017 -> 04:15 PM) Just noticed Bregman doesn't have a homer yet. Swanson garbage. Benintendi (unavailable), Judge and Turner (unavailable) were the only difference makers, it seems. You're making this claim a month into the season?
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2017 MLB Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 4, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) That makes sense though. Trout is doing what he usually does, while Judge is a rookie vastly exceeding expectations. I was going to say that it does make sense. Fans, media love the new shiny toy.
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Sale likely to be suspended
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 4, 2017 -> 12:02 PM) Sale is only getting fined as of now, right? I'm selfishly hoping he misses his scheduled start in Minnesota so that I might be able to see him in person in Milwaukee. I assume if he is getting suspended, he'd appeal it, pitch his next game, and then drop the appeal and serve it.
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Nate Jones to 10 Day DL (retro to May 1)
I also didn't realize that Holmberg has seen some MLB action already.
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Nate Jones to 10 Day DL (retro to May 1)
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 4, 2017 -> 10:12 AM) Yeah, this league awards 2.5 points per hold. I acquired him because he'll probably be the closer if Robertson is traded. I might just hold onto him and hope he's only on the shelf for a couple weeks. Good idea then.
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Nate Jones to 10 Day DL (retro to May 1)
QUOTE (bmags @ May 4, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) I would not have guessed Holmberg up before Luebke. Didn't Luebke just return from the dl?
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Nate Jones to 10 Day DL (retro to May 1)
QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ May 4, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) Paul Sullivan @PWSullivan 34s Nate Jones to DL with elbow neuritis. David Holmberg up. Rodon to 60-day DL. I suggested this could happen to make room for someone not on the 40-man. Didn't expect it this soon.
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Nate Jones to 10 Day DL (retro to May 1)
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 4, 2017 -> 10:03 AM) Dammit. I literally just acquired him in my league. Is he drop worthy? Is your league Holds+saves? If not I wouldn't even bother. Worst case scenario, stash him on your dl.
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5/3 Games
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) So, what happened was, Delmonico disappeared that offseason. Milwaukee released him because they could not reach him. He later told FutureSox in an interview that he didn't want to return calls, and wanted to be released, which happened. Then he signed with Sox. You can read about it in our interview with him here - one of the more interesting interviews we've published. Yeah link I provided earlier said he told Milwaukee he wanted to be released and then changed his phone number. Then Sox signed him like 7 months later. Dude definitely had something going on in his head and I'm glad he's straightened up whatever was going on.
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May 3rd Game Thread: White Sox at KC Royals
QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 3, 2017 -> 03:36 PM) Asche!?!? Nooooo! Free Willy! This lineup needs mas Garcias!
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May 3rd Game Thread: White Sox at KC Royals
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 3, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) didn't score on the Abreu hit? Was that TA, can't remember. I think that was Yolmer.
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Sale likely to be suspended
It'll be what, 5 games? Not even missing a start. You would just pitch the next day.
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May 3rd Game Thread: White Sox at KC Royals
QUOTE (flavum @ May 3, 2017 -> 01:52 PM) Rain all day in KC, but 5 hours for the rest to move out, should be ok. Knew we could count on you Flavum Skilling.
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5/3 Games
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 3, 2017 -> 12:59 PM) What's the difference in salary going to be, a couple million? Yeah basically another pre-arbitration year. Could honestly be more than a few million but as I said, I'm not sure the Sox care about that. It's not like he will be up the next day after that deadline. He'll just be up when he is ready.
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5/3 Games
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2017 -> 12:55 PM) Isn't that the usual Super 2 deadline? Would you have to add another month to it because of his service time from his call up last year? Yeah usually around end of May but I don't think the Sox really care about that (granted, I don't think he will be up until after that deadline anyway).
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Updated teams interested in Q
QUOTE (raBBit @ May 3, 2017 -> 12:44 PM) Yeah I agree with you. Looks like Mets are going to fall off too and they could have been in the 3B market. On the bright side KC should be absolutely awful when the Sox are primed to contend again. KC has maybe the least longterm assets in all of baseball. No real locked up young talent and one of the worst farm systems. Same for the Giants. It's sucks there aren't a lot of fits for Melky and Frazier.
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Updated teams interested in Q
QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ May 3, 2017 -> 12:44 PM) Verlander and Q have way different markets. Verlander is owed $70M over the next 2.5 seasons with the opportunity to vest another $22M. Meanwhile has one more year of control at half the price. The teams interested in Verlander are not the teams that will be in on Q, those are the teams that are willing to eat money to preserve prospects. Those are the same teams that will be in on Greinke this summer. Herrera is probably the one piece that either of those teams have that could directly impact the trade value of any of the guys the Sox are looking to move. Moose and Frazier are not similar players, Cain and Cabrera are pretty much opposites. Tigers could eat money in a deal. Or the Dodgers, who let's face it, will be in the market for another good SP. They could take on the whole contract without giving up a huge haul.
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Updated teams interested in Q
QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 3, 2017 -> 12:41 PM) Red Sox seem like a perfect fit for needing a 3B so we need the Royals to pick it up so they go after Frazier instead of Moustakas. Unfortunately I don't have any faith in them turning it around, they're bad. Yeah and Donaldson is another who could potentially be available this summer.
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Updated teams interested in Q
QUOTE (raBBit @ May 3, 2017 -> 12:28 PM) This and we should be rooting for the Tigers and Royals. If Tigers fall out and make Verlander available... Royals could sell off Moutstakas, Cain and relievers. I've been saying this since before the season. I want those two teams to be doing good and I want the Jays to bounce back.
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Updated teams interested in Q
QUOTE (steveno89 @ May 3, 2017 -> 11:50 AM) I don't see many TOR starters being available at the deadline at will be under lengthy team control. Rental players do not come cheap either, and a team may have an easier time justifying a longer term piece like Quintana over an expensive three month rental They don't really have to be considered "top of rotation arms." Guys could be having good years or career years on the final year of a deal and be dealt at a cheaper cost than Q that a team may be willing to pay.