Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 07:25 AM) Even Kevan Smith has been surprisingly not awful. Yeah seems like he could a competent backup. I'm a fan of having a lefty starting catcher and a righty backup.

The most annoying sac bunt is seeing a speedy guy hit a lead off double to start an inning only for the next guy to attempt to move him over to third. I hate that. Give yourself 3 chances to bring him in as opposed to 2. The only bunt I am a fan of is the drag bunt or bunt for base hit from a speedster.

Honestly, is there ever a decent amount of catchers that project to stay behind the plate when drafted? It doesn't seem like it yet every team has them. Plus, hasn't he improved since last year?

QUOTE (Scoots @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 04:32 AM) So, short-term thinking, what does the rotation realistically look like for 2018? You'd have to think Giolito is going to get his shot at his first full major league stint, regardless how bad he is at AAA this season. Lopez is probably there. Rodon obviously. Who else? I dont think Dunning will be up at the start of the season. Shields and Holland will be gone, (thank goodness), so who mans the other 2 spots? Another couple rentals?? Or are we trying our luck with Holmberg again? Is it a slamdunk that Shields, who is signed for next year, is gone?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 05:26 PM) I think we will catch them. We are only beginning our suck. They have gone through the worst IMO. unlikely they even shed many pieces. We also play them 3 games later on. Could be crucial.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 04:23 PM) Right now, your backups at 1B are probably Saladino and Davidson. Your backups in the OF are probably Saladino and Hanson. Your backups at 2B, SS, and 3B are Saladino and Sanchez. There are enough ABs spread throughout the field that Saladino gets his AB's throughout the field and everyone else gets enough playing time otherwise. Yep, and that open DH spot gets someone more at bats or rests a regular every day.

QUOTE (Username @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) Look, I really like Yolmer too. But his trade value isn't going to improve if he's our backup middle infield guy. What makes him hard to give up - youth and control - also give him value right now over rental players. His peak value is a glove-first 2B with some bat value. Not as a part time or utility piece. Yes, he's got some position versatility. But his bat isn't going to play up well at 3B or even a corner OF spot. Edit: he's especially redundant when we've got a potential super-utility guy in Leury, who can play basically anywhere. Now, if you're worried about Tim and want to hold onto Yolmer in case he's the better long-term option? Now I see your argument. I am completely ok trading him if the offer is there.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 03:04 PM) As a full time guy, probably not, but as a guy who fills in here and there, I can't imagine it would be a huge issue. If that's the case, then I wouldn't mind him staying.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 02:50 PM) I vote Yolmer as the utility infielder moving forward. Saladino's back concerns me. Does he have the arm strength for 3B and even plays in the hole at SS? I know people have been concerned about that and I'm asking because I have no idea personally.

I get it for this team. Look at that horses*** lineup. But in general, I hate bunts.

Figured these guys could use a thread for any news and rumors (whether trade or dfa lol). I was hopeful we could spin one or two of them off for something useful (lotto tickets) but have been having doubts lately.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 12:10 PM) Tim Anderson just turned 24 years old. He's as much apart of this rebuild as anyone currently in the minor leagues. Controllable for next what, 7 years? You gotta stick with him at SS through the rest of this year and likely all of 18 and see if there is any improvement there.

QUOTE (Superstar Lamar @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 12:10 PM) I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox were able to move him for something, even salary relief over the next few weeks. Yeah, probably. Even a Low-A baller or something.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) Fangraphs & Baseball America both had him in the teens. Honestly, he's probably a Clarkin level prospect at best. Overall the returns for relievers haven't been that great so far this deadline IMO. Seems like there's a lot available.

Are Phelps and Kahnle comparable? I know Phelps also has some control and also has more of a track record I guess.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 10:34 AM) Per Heyman, Brayan Hernandez is the top guy going for Phelps. Along with 3 others.

What about Tampa Bay? Rasmus was rotating between the OF and DH before he decided to leave the team. Eat remainder of his salary and see what you can get.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 08:38 AM) UA takes over MLB merchandise in 2019. You should have waited. I do applaud you for getting the real one, though, however. It beats those $30 counterfeit kind. If you look on the right sites, you can find a legit one. I got a Paulie authentic cool base jersey from a site my friend used to order jerseys from for like $40. Had skeptical friends even check it out and admit that it is amazing.

No such thing as too many arms. Some of these guys will make it as starters. Some will struggle and succeed in the bullpen. Some will just suck and be nothing.

QUOTE (Username @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 08:50 AM) Supposedly they've been looking at David Phelps but it's unclear whether he's the guy they're about to snag. Yeah I saw that once I got to work today. For some reason, MLBtr hasn't been updating on my phone correctly.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 08:46 AM) Are you sure about this? They have at least $65M in salary coming off the books next year between A-Rod, Sabathia, & Holiday. Even with Robertson's $13M salary, it seems like they should have plenty of space below the luxury tax. And this assumes that Tanaka doesn't opt-out either. I was gonna say too, if they were "forced" to go under, wouldn't they want the Sox pay some salary and maybe give up a better third piece or an additional prospect? The fact this didn't happen makes it seem like they aren't desperate.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 08:38 AM) The Yanks are going to be "forced" to shed salary to get under luxury tax threshold so I doubt this was an unlikely scenario. Eh they're over this season but are done paying A-Rod, Holliday, Sabathia, and, though not too significant, Pineda after this season. Headley and Gardner after next. That's a lot of salary being shed.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 06:42 AM) Hahn said they offered to eat money with other teams, but this was the best deal from a value standpoint. Unfortunatly, they can't force the Yankees to give up a better prospect return in exchange for money. ^this. People on here say we should have eaten money to get a better return but you just can't force a team to do that. They figured this was the best offer while allowing them to eat almost no money (just Clippard's couple million and even he has value to us to throw some innings since we need guys in the pen).

Mariners close to trading for an unidentified reliever.

Sandoval back to Giants.