Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) Not only Saunders, but Rasmus and Rajai Davis too. Sox typically abhor eating salary...and nobody other than Liriano/Coats you could even conceive of giving his playing time to. In the end, Melky at $4-6 million (Sox might send $2 with) for 2 months is much more palatable than a full season commitment, especially with how his 2015 season went. They just ate most of Danks' $15 mill from last season and most of the $10 million given out to Latos,Rollins (both cut), and Jackson (missed over half the season). I wouldn't be shocked to see them kick in about $10 mill to move Melky because it is only for 1 year.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 01:29 PM) I don't think a team like the Pirates can really afford to "gut their entire farm system" like a Boston or Washington could. I would guess they would try to restock it partially with a Cutch deal, but nobody seems willing to pay that price either. So we wait. Pirates could also deal Quintana (and anyone else: McCutchen like you said, Nova, etc.) to replenish the farm in 2-3 years if they wanted.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) Phil Rogers ‏@philgrogers 28m28 minutes ago Idle thought: Could @whitesox land switch-hitting prodigy Josh Bell & Tyler Glasnow from Pirates in deal for Quintana & Todd Frazier? Phil Rogers ‏@philgrogers 26m26 minutes ago @whitesox want Austin Meadows in Jose Quintana deal but Josh Bell also fits the need for young hitters w/big upside. Is this the first time we've seen for certain that this is who we want? Or do you think he's just assuming.

QUOTE (Mattchoo @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 12:12 PM) I see a variety of issues with the first tweet. 1) Bell & Glasnow for Q and Todd Frazier is not good value for the Sox. 2) The Pirates would never want to take on all that salary. They'd require the Sox to eat the salary. This would make it even worse value of a trade for Sox. Now if it was Q and Todd Frazier and all of Frazier's 2017 salary, then the return from PITT would need to be Meadows, Bell, Glasnow, and Newman/Keller. I doubt the Pirates want to gut their top prospects for just Q and Frazier, even though this is closer to fair value for Sox. I don't think he is suggesting a 2-for-2 swap. Just that they would be in the deal.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 06:54 AM) I'd be shocked if dodgers couldn't recreate Lawries production in house. Hell we did Enrique Hernandez and Micah Johnson?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 12:25 AM) Personally, I don't see a role on this team for Lawrie if we can't trade Frazier this offseason (and Saladino is healthy). In such a scenario, I'd simply trade or cut him near the end of spring training. I'd have to think someone would take a flier on Brett at his reasonable salary. I agree as well. I'd be on the phone offering him to the Dodgers. A cheaper (in terms of money and prospects) alternative to Dozier.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Jan 1, 2017 -> 11:05 PM) Forget the rumors, forget the tweets. The only thing that happens now is deals. It either happens or it doesn't. These days, my friends, are the dog days of the offseason. Sure, things will still happen, but it will be when you least expect them. I'm done feeding off of rumors. I've heard enough Q rumors. The next thing for me that will be even remotely interesting involving Q is a Q trade. If it happens, great it will mean the Sox felt that they got a fair price. If not, oh well that sucks I'd prefer if some team had offered enough for the Sox to deal him but they didn't, so consolation prize is having an awesome pitcher on your team. Agreed 100%.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 1, 2017 -> 08:35 PM) I'm guessing this starts to heat up again tomorrow, right? Or are we still in the holidays? Guess it depends on what you mean by heat up. Do you mean negotiations just start to continue?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 1, 2017 -> 08:04 AM) JFC, Chris Sale was traded less than one month ago, give me a f***ing break already. It's January first and people are talking about the rebuild failing already and it started 25 days ago. I would say it started in July with the negotiating of current player (and Sale) trades and the trade of Zach Duke (good thing we traded him when we did, huh?)

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 31, 2016 -> 02:19 PM) The price DOESN'T increase, though. Next year's free agent SP class is fantastic, and a bunch of those guys are going to be available at the deadline. You're (all) right that we shouldn't feel the need to move Q for a weak deal, but this is STILL the best opportunity to move him in the foreseeable future, so the goal still absolutely needs to be moving him now. And I'll reiterate again that his "value" has nothing to do with what Chris Sale or other comparable pitchers got in return -- it has to do with how many suitors there are and what those suitors are willing to pay. Every time a guy moves (like Sale) the market changes, because the highest bidder just left the room. Not necessarily.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 31, 2016 -> 09:51 AM) Eaton and Carlos Quentin, to name two. Sergio Santos from the same organization. DeAza from the Marlins. Floyd from the Phillies. Jim Thome. AJ with the Giants. Cliff Politte from the Cards. Ozuna, too. A lot of those guys don't really qualify as "veterans." And Thome had a ton of success in the AL first.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 31, 2016 -> 07:17 AM) Giants say they are tapped out and probably view all of their internal options for outfield more favorably. Not to say they aren't a candidate at deadline if that fails. They have any close to expiring deals we could take back?

QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 31, 2016 -> 06:43 AM) Wondering if the Giants could also use some bullpen arms, as both Romo and Casilla are free agents. This article does list a reliever as a need.

Figured I'd post this here since the Hot Stove season is more of an ice cold freezer and there's almost zero news every day. Lists that the Giants could use a left fielder and third baseman (shifting Nunez into a super-utility role which I actually suggested here before). http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/3-re...eague-west.html What would you guys want if the Giants traded for Frazier, Melky, plus cash (covering some/most of Melky's salary)?

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 30, 2016 -> 06:21 PM) 1B- Adam LaRoche 2B- Wilson Betemit SS- Alex Cintron 3B- Josh Fields OF- Joey Belle OF- George Bell OF- Carl Everette DH- Joe Borchard Bench- Lyle Mouton, Drake LaRoche , Leury Garcia , Oney Guillen SP- Jaime Navarro SP- Todd Ritchie SP- Erik Johnson SP- Aaron Poreda SP- Arnie Munoz Closer- don't need one with that lineup and rotation. Skipper: Terry Bevington Billy Koch for closer.

Is it wrong that, despite knowing Sale is better, that Buehrle is my favorite pitcher of all time? (Only 25 years old so didn't see McDowell or others mentioned) Basically started getting into baseball around 99/2000 so I basically started from the beginning with Buehrle's career (and Paulie's for that matter).

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 30, 2016 -> 01:30 PM) Weird, is that common? I think so.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 30, 2016 -> 11:45 AM) The blasters in Star Wars are able to obliterate concrete and create huge craters in metal surfaces, I don't think there's much armor that can protect against that. And are we sure they're always killed when hit? Maybe they're just stunned or knocked out. Good theory. I'll buy it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 30, 2016 -> 09:15 AM) Our offense is more like a bunch of stormtroopers trying to defend the death star. On the subject of stormtroopers, what's the point of their armor when it doesn't stop anything? Maybe the helmets are why they miss most of their shots lol

QUOTE (striker @ Dec 30, 2016 -> 09:00 AM) Blackmon LeMahieu Arenado Abreu Story Gonzalez Desmond Wolter Gray Quintana Bettis Anderson Butler That's a pretty sweet lineup. Q could win 25 games with that offense. Subtract Abreu, add Trumbo and Rockies keep half the propsects mentioned above and I think it's more realistic.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 09:47 PM) The quiet is a bit disconcerting, especially with how close things seemed and how quickly talks picked up Tuesday. Starting to get a little nervous. To be fair, no one actually confirmed anything was close. It just seems that way because that's all we've really had leaked as far discussion goes. I'm sure talks are still flowing with multiple teams.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) You hailed? I've been higher on Coats than most, guilty. I think he can make a fine MLB 4th OF. Maybe even a little more, getting platoon or short-term starting time on a non-first-tier or rebuilding team if the opportunity arose. That's my read anyway. He's an odd case in that he doesn't have a single plus tool, except maybe his arm. But he's also no lower than 45 on any tool. Instead of the typical, White Sox "toolsy outfielder" types with 1-3 big tools and 1-2 huge holes in their game, Coats is the opposite. I think it plays, but we'll see. He's got similarities to a RHH Ross Gload type - can hit for average, some power but not at a plus level, doesn't walk much (or enough) but makes regular hard contact with an aggressive approach, line drive swing, has a little speed but nothing special. Gload had a stronger hit tool to be sure, but Coats plays at least average to above average corner OF D, as opposed to Gload being a 1B who can play OF in a pinch. A Gload-like career is Coats' ceiling, but as an OF instead of 1B/DH/PH/occasional OF. Platoon him with Melky or Tilson (Liriano in CF when Coats plays) with Avi in RF.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) He's not a superstar, but he was on pace for around 20 HR's last year. He'll also be just 27, entering his prime, and is making less than he made last year. There are teams that add that type of player every year at the deadline for the playoff push. I'm surprised the Dodgers aren't in on him. He'd be a lot cheaper in terms of prospects than Dozier and making only $3.5 mill.

QUOTE (Mattchoo @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 07:51 AM) We need a new tweet.... Not until at least 5 dammit. I have s*** to get done today before the 4-day weekend.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 11:38 AM) Not calling you out but I don't understand why several people want to see Matt Davidson yet don't want anything to do with Avi Garcia playing in a rebuild. At least Avi failed in the major leagues. What is it about Matt Davidson that screams anything but in two weeks we will have seen more than enough, if it even takes that long? Yes his numbers improved his 4th year of AAA, but his OPS was still .001 lower than Leury Garcia's. Yeah I'm fine with Avi in RF honestly. Between him and Coats, I'd rather see Avi.