Tony

There are three ways they can proceed, and two of them don’t make a lot of sense: 1. Change nothing. You now have a GM on the last year of his deal, who is going to be in “save his job” mode and responsible for bringing in the next coach for the foreseeable future. Having a lame duck GM is not what I would want for my franchise 2. Extend him. Good luck announcing an extension at the end of the season for a GM with a 14-37 record. If they extend him, they’ll get absolutely roasted, and for good reason. 3. Fire him. The clear move. Start fresh with a GM/HC that are linked up from the start.

They should be able to interview Johnson during the bye week before the SB, if the Lions make it that far

This team is going to win 4 games. With the issues on the OL and DL, even with a new coaching staff, I don’t see a 9-10 win team next year. That means Poles now has 4 years under his belt as GM, without even coming close to a winning record. You bringing him back for a 5th year? Because if you aren’t…then you shouldn’t let him pick the new coach. Because now the new GM is coming into a coaching situation he inherited…which is what the Bears always do, and it’s worked out so well before..,

They basically rushed 3 on this play, not even 4..and they still don’t have a chance on this play. It’s really incredible

Given it’s the right and obvious call to make, my hope is it wouldn’t be a very difficult thing to explain. They’re going to end the season on an 11 game losing streak lol. Poles also has a 14 game losing streak to his name as well, the two longest in Bears history. And this one came after he said “It’s time to win.” There isn’t a single coach that should be back next year. If it’s a totally new staff, there should be a new GM running the show. Easiest decision ever, but it’s the Bears, so they’ll find a way to get it wrong. They’re incredibly good at it

Wouldn’t be my first choice, but they should have a conversation with a dozen candidates.

I don't think anyone is "up in arms" But I personally believe it's fair to question the specific move when we know it probably doesn't happen if LaRussa isn't still part of this organization, and doesn't still have quite a bit of sway internally. Especially when it seems like Getz has made certain moves and investments into new technology, fresh eyes and approach. Whereas LaRussa gave an interview, shortly before coming back to manage the Sox, where he spoke about having the desire to coach again to help "correct the balance" in baseball, referring to "too much data" being used, and not making decisions based on the players "head, heart and guts" You don't have to squint very hard to already see a disconnect happening between different parts of the front office.

Correct, because I was surprised to see him being critical of a move Getz and Co. were possibly going to make, felt like it was significant. Weird how when they actually hire him, albeit for a different role, it's all good, "makes a lot of sense" now....🙄

Oh, James thinks something this front office did is great? I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you...

From 2015: https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/mlb/diamondbacks/2015/09/16/diamondbacks-tony-la-russa-phil-nevin-could-hot-managerial-candidate/72343042/ Also...

La Russa always gets his guy

So was Ian Cunningham. How insane is it that the two football brains running this thing are two former OL's, and they missed the mark SO badly on that specific position?

Discussion was had here a few weeks ago...but if they don't spend the entire offseason investing in the trenches, 2025 will look exactly like 2024. Football has evolved over the years, but at the core, the thing that has stayed the same is needing to be strong in three positions to win....QB, OL and DL. Can't go far without a QB, that's obvious, and I think the Bears have it. Having a good QB doesn't mean much (see 2024 Bears) if he's got 1.5 seconds to throw on a lot of plays. Run game doesn't work either. Things just don't work without it. And I don't care how much you invest, or how talented your CB's, S, LB core is...if you can't generate a sustained pass rush, any secondary is going to get cooked if the QB has 4 seconds to throw the ball. Don't think it's possible to totally fill both sides of the ball in one offseason, but it's all I would be focused on. Only way they'll win.

If anything, my guess is they believe they can get a prospect closer to the majors than a 17 year old, that is the logic. They must see something in him, think they can get more out of him than others. That obviously remains to be seen and the Sox, at this point, should not be trusted or given the benefit of the doubt in really any situation…but there is logic to the deal. This guy has 15-20 solid innings, gets flipped for a AA player in July.

And he shouldn't have to. He literally played in the "Steroid Era" That name wasn't given to that timeframe because a handful of guys were juicing. Additionally, Mark McGwire became an MLB coach, ARod and David Ortiz are on national MLB broadcasts, etc. Lastly, this insistence for Sosa to have to "apologize" in order to be welcomed back to an organization that is owned by someone who wasn't involved when Sosa committed his malfeasances seems petty. Everyone is aware that Sosa, and others, are flawed. It was a different era that shouldn't be ignored. He doesn't have to have a statue or parade, but completely ostracizing a fan favorite who was a huge part of objectively saving baseball after the strike has always been stupid.

Obviously, I totally agree. It seems incredibly simple, yet they'll find a way to botch it. The only question you really need to ask yourself if your Kevin Warren or George, is this: "If we bring Ryan back, and 2025 looks like 2024, are we firing Ryan?" If the answer even remotely resembles "yes" then you can't let him make the hire for the next HC of the team. If 2025 is his make or break season for you, why are you giving him that much decision making that will significantly impact your future, including when he's already left the building. On top of the fact you've done this now basically the last decade with HC/GM/QB all being on different timelines. It's so black and white, but they'll once again find a way to get stuck in the mud.

The Bears really are going to do the most predictable thing ever. They'll keep Poles, hire a new HC. Season won't go the way they want in 2025, Poles will basically have to be fired. Now a new GM is coming in with a coach he didn't hire. And the cycle continues, and continues, and continues. And George will sit in the owners box and wonder why things aren't working.

Ohhh, so this is the way they are finally going to find a RF....

This is the perfect example of glass half full of glass half empty approach. Glass half full: Sox are investing into modern technology, which should help the product on the field. Glass half empty: As of June 2024, 19 MLB teams had Trajekt. Like always, the Sox are behind the times, playing catch up with the rest of the league as forward thinking teams are two steps ahead. In my opinion, both are true.

This is the worst move Getz has made, he's awful, everything is terrible.

For as much as you cry about everyone else here, you continue to engage with those people. So either stop engaging, or quit crying about the same thing you claim everyone else is.

I'm trying to spot any inaccuracies with the people you quoted, and can't seem to find any. When have the Sox spoken to a top tier free agent and converted? Albert Belle? They lost the most games in MLB history last season, the opinion on Jerry is subjective (I guess) and given the amount of dollars needed for Sasaki, and again being the worst team in MLB history last year, I don't see the lie in "aren't a desirable location" Really not a lot of analysis needed. The Sox are 102-222 in the last two years, and the o/u for wins in 2025 has to be like 55? I could go on...but here is the other point. If the Sox were to sign Sasaki, everyone here would be ecstatic and for good reason. They are adding high end talent and investing serious resources in the product on the field. I, along with most others, would happily eat crow. Would love to. But based on what historical data tells me, I'm not saving room in my stomach for a crow burger in the near future.

Stop it. I would like to think you're smarter than that. "There's not much point in being a fan if we think everything they do is bound to fail." How do you think fans got there? This organization started rebuilding in 2016, after having below .500 seasons in 2015, 2014, and 2013 when they were "trying to win" and the results of that rebuild netted the Sox 2 playoff victories. They now are on their next rebuild, coming off the worst season in MLB history. But White Sox fans saying "We'll believe it when we see it" are the weird ones? Are you out of your fucking mind?

I mean, everyone could have seen this coming. This is not an NFL line, 72 should not be starting under any circumstance. But here we are.

Once again, another case of everyone else is wrong, you’re the right one, even when multiple posters have attempted to show you your math doesn’t math. But keep doing your thing, sure it will work out for you.