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So nice having multiple legit position player prospects to follow for once. Fun night.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) It's nice to hear that stuff about the park factors. I did see his away splits were much better. Is Kannapolis a hitting-friendly environment, a pitching-friendly environment, or fairly neutral? https://www.milb.com/milb/news/toolshed-sta...116/t-185364810 Last 3 years runs are 0.95, Homeruns are 0.76 and hits are 1.00 so it looks to be about neutral, though it also suppresses homeruns.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 03:07 PM) Yeah, that is a bit frightening to read. I think the piece would have been a bit better if he identified the "safer" prospect alternatives that Hahn could have targeted instead, and I'm not sure who those guys are supposed to be (and as pointed out a few posts above, many of the supposed "safer" guys have struggled this year, and even a guy like Benintendi has just been OK). But of the seven in that article, if one is a star, three are good to pretty good, and the rest bust we'd be in good shape.

Morosi says talks between the Astros and A's about Sonny Gray are heating up. Also said the Astros are considering a Verlander/Wilson deal instead.

If we could find someone to take Beckham and Navarro off our hands in recent years then we can find a team who will want Melky. But I don't expect anything better than someone with a pulse. Hopefully that guy is the next Yency Almonte.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) Seems like there's a lot available. Yeah there's a huge glut of relievers available which has definitely driven down the price.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 09:21 AM) Not from an fWAR perspective...Leury was worth more than Robertson, for example. I'm not sure fWAR properly values relievers anyway but the top relievers are worth ~2.5-3 WAR which is a #2-3 starter territory. And come playoff time having a Miller is much more valuable than having a good 5th starter, who won't be starting any playoff games.

Hahn should fine Renteria every time he calls for a bunt.

Currently at the game, loved the crowd's reaction to Moncada.

The thing that gives me hope is that the HR park factor for Charleston last year was 0.4930, that's crazy low. That home park really suppresses offense. Looking at Rutherford's splits confirms this: Home: .242/.308/.320 Away: .315/.373/.452

The offer is going to be by far the most important variable, if we have the highest offer then I don't see why they wouldn't want to come here. I know the rebuild/Luis Robert acquisition signals that things are different from before, but JR would still need some serious convincing to pony up the needed 400-500 million or whatever it will be.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 03:50 PM) Thanks guys! I've already deleted posts! Already making me look like a slacker. Thank you for the welcome everyone.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 12:48 PM) I am not in the belief that Rick is going to just give anyone away in this rebuild. Now I know some might not agree with that LOL I wouldnt put it past Rick to get a top 100 at the very bottom type guy for Swarzak. Someone is going to get desperate after they strike out landing the other guys. If the supply of relievers was razor thin then it'd be a different story, but with Hand/Neshek/Britton/O'Day/Brach/Wilson (and I might be forgetting others) still available there's enough relievers to go around.

His July numbers in 14 games are .327/.373/.455 with a strikeout rate of less than 7% (though walk rate is just 3.4%)

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 10:48 AM) Who cares what you are ranked. What matters is what these guys become. The Sox staff is on the clock. I'm not a huge fan of only judging trades based on the end results years later. Trades should be judged on both the end result and the value traded the day the trade was made. To make an extreme example, if we traded Courtney Hawkins for Mike Trout tomorrow and Trout got hurt in a freak accident and never played another game while Hawkins inexplicably somehow becomes an above-average regular, would that incredible stroke of good and bad luck make that trade a bad one for the White Sox?

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 10:32 AM) The fact that apparently Hahn wouldn't budge on D-Rob for Robles straight up and then settles for a struggling 20 year old in A ball is very puzzling, I'm not big on Rutherford at all The lack of power this year is concerning but I wouldn't call a 112 wRC+ struggling. I also looked up the park factors for Charleston and it's a pretty big pitcher's park. He needs to start hitting for more power though, that .109 ISO is ugly.

QUOTE (Soha @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) I think there's a little bit of a glut of relievers available this year - as opposed to last year. Probably from teams seeing what the Cubs and Tribe paid last year. I'm skeptical that the Sox would have landed a top 100 prospect for Robertson. Maybe, but I wouldn't hold my breath. It didn't help that Baltimore tanked the last few weeks and went into sell mode with their glut of good relievers.

QUOTE (ecupittfan @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:40 AM) What is really lost in this trade talk is that Swarzak is the closer now and I have him on my fantasy team which should allow me to gain some spots in saves. This can not be understated. Well done Rick Hahn. Until Swarzak is also gone a week from now.

Hopefully we at least floated the idea and maybe the Yankees weren't willing, but I wish we had ate some money on Robertson's deal to get a better 4th piece than Polo. But oh well, hard to be that upset about getting a guy like Rutherford.

Updated Fangraphs ROS projections: Before the trade we were projected to finish at 65 wins, 5 games ahead of the Phillies. It's now down to 63, 3 games ahead of the Phillies. #1 overall pick could still happen. http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx

Hansen had a no-hitter through 5 2/3 but then hit a guy and gave up a single. Now he's done for the day. 8K, 2BB, 1H.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-white-s...jor-trade-chip/ Sullivan thinks we should trade Kahnle and thinks the return should be pretty good if we do. Says he's really surprised that there's been no reported interest in him. This isn't news or anything but I agree with Jeff that the return should be solid, we should be able to get at least one top 100 prospect for him, and I don't think it necessarily would be a guy ranked near the bottom of that list either.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 03:39 PM) That article was written before McMahon went off and is batting .356 - .402 - .597 in 2017 I know but I was more focusing on the part of the writeup about his defense. But he's also doing that in the PCL right? Colorado Springs boosts offense by 30% more than Coors does. I'm not sure I buy that he's suddenly transformed into an elite hitter. His line is also being pumped up a lot by that .421 BABIP.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) You're right, my statement is garbage simply because the White Sox team, ownership and front office are garbage. By the way, if the rebuild is just a smoke screen to lower payroll, then why in the world did the White Sox pay $50 million to acquire Robert? That would make zero sense if they're only concerned about making profits. That one move completely shatters your entire theory.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) Everything I've read on him indicates he's very athletic and a good defender. BA said he was the best defensive 3B in the SAL in 2014. His chances of sticking at 3B are severely limited in Colorado by this guy named Nolan Arenado, you may have heard of him. Arenado is likely gone after next season so I doubt he'd block McMahon. But here's Longenhagen's writeup on McMahon: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-24-pros...lorado-rockies/