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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2014 -> 03:12 PM) 1st 1/2/3 inning of the game for Q. 112 pitches through 7, so he is probably done. And the Sox probably won't score this inning so it will be yet another very strong outing for Quintana in which he is not rewarded with a win. I'm so happy (most) people are past the point of evaluating pitchers on wins and losses.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 23, 2014 -> 03:11 PM) His extension was such a HUGE move for Hahn. You have to love having a legitimate ace (Sale) and a legitimate #2 starter (Quintana) locked up to long term below market value deals. If Rodon comes close to living up to the hype we will have 3 fantastic pieces to the rotation that are all relatively cheap for through at least 2019.

Regardless of the return it is time for the White Sox to move on from Beckham. Especially with Saladino, Sanchez, Semien and Johnson all at AAA.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 05:13 PM) You can invest it in other young players or use it to acquire guys with existing contracts in trade, etc. It doesn't have to be through major FA signings. Bottom line it gives you flexibility. Agreed. Unless you go back to the 90s the Sox have really never signed a top free agent other than Dunn. However, they have traded for a number of guys with big contracts and trading Danks gives you a lot of flexibility on that front. He also isn't particularly good at this point and isn't a key part of the White Sox future so if someone is willing to take on his whole contract and you can get a couple interesting pieces in return he absolutely should be traded.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 04:05 PM) And who wouldn't want such important pieces from Cleveland's amazing 26-56 team! Thompson would be a great piece if he wasn't a free agent after next year. He's a 22 year old PF that is already putting up good numbers. Out of Butler, Gibson, Waiters and Thompson I certainly would take Thompson out of that group if I'm building a team long term and I'm not sure it would be close. I don't care for Waiters at all though.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 12:51 PM) If we're trading Jimmy, we really need to get Kevin Martin back (which the T'Wolves will like too). We're short on bodies, let alone talent at the 2. The Bulls aren't getting Love so it's irrelevant.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 12:47 PM) Taj, Butler and picks. Better than Wiggins and scrap? No and it isn't close.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 12:45 PM) http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11247946...love-trade-push If Wiggins is really on the table there is nothing that the Bulls can offer to trump that.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 12:11 PM) He's not a #5 starter. He's a former #2 starter who is probably more like a #3. Danks is a back of the rotation starter. I can't imagine any team, including the White Sox, views him as a legitimate #3 starter at this point.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 02:54 PM) Is there any doubt that 29 other teams would bid the same $6.5 million? That is an issue that would need additional tweaking and I'm not sure there is a great way to solve it but the current system really is bad for the team and the player in these situations.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 01:09 PM) How Boras would solve the Aiken type scenario. http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/scott-b...ken-mess-072114 That is actually a very reasonable proposal.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 02:36 PM) In comparison to Lebron James, yes, he sucks. In comparison to other back-up point guards making 2 million a year, he's actually pretty good. His shooting is about the only thing that sucks in his game. He can do everything else just fine for 10-15 minutes a game against a 2nd unit. Well he also doesn't do a good job creating shots for other players and turns the ball over too much for a guy who doesn't create for himself or others.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 19, 2014 -> 04:10 PM) DJ was getting skullf***ed in the playoffs by Wall and Beal. As bad as Robinson was the year before. Kirk Hinrich was just as bad as DJ and Robinson was actually solid in the postseason the year before.

There is literally no reason for Gordon Beckham to be on this team post July 31.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2014 -> 04:32 PM) What could be really interesting is if there is a grievance filed on behalf of Nix, the Astros lose, and they lose their #1 pick next year. That would be amazing. It's also going to be really interesting to see how agents deal with the Astros going forward. They are going to have zero credibility at the table.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 18, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) Evan Drellich ‏@EvanDrellich 53s “We tried to engage Casey Close three times today … there was no interest” — GM Jeff Luhnow tells the Chronicle Reply 3 Retweet Favorite Lol, people tend to be less receptive to negotiation when you try to f*** them over.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2014 -> 04:18 PM) Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 1m Team officials guesstimated this week that if Brady Aiken was a free agent, he'd get something in the range of $30m-$40m. What a system. This is true of every draft system. Imagine what guys like LeBron, Durant, Griffin, etc. would have gone for on the open market when they were draft eligible.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 18, 2014 -> 04:02 PM) The dude over at hoopshype, who apparently scouted Mirotic, thinks the no-defense claims are unfounded. He had some stat where in pure one-on-one situations Mirotic got a steal 25% of the time. That has to be good, right? That stat is almost certainly incorrect. Mirotic averaged 1.1 steals per game so unless teams never attacked him there is no way that is true.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) The numbers I saw writers guessing at were between $10 and $20 million. I am guessing that on the open market, the later is much more likely than the previous. Do you see the Sox putting $20 million down for a pitcher that could be a half of a decade away from the majors, and might have a significant injury risk? I don't. I don't see the White Sox being anywhere near the top tier of bidders. Not to mention, with the insane amount that the Yankees are spending on international free agents this year and their emphasis on improving their farm system, I'm certain they would be licking their chops at being able to add a premium talent that comes with no penalties and would drive up the price significantly.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 17, 2014 -> 03:22 PM) No doubt. Irving - worst defensive pg not named Felton Waiters - Horrible James - Top 5 defender in league Love - Bad bad bad Verajao - never healthy and sucks James's offensive numbers may decline with how much he'll need to cover on D. Umm, Varejao is a very good defensive player and terrific rebounder when healthy. The problem is he isn't healthy near enough.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 17, 2014 -> 10:31 AM) I'd be seeing what the highest bidder on Putnam is and selling. He screams one year wonder to me. The only two guys in the pen I'd be hesitant to trade are Petricka and Webb and that is mostly because I think the returns they would bring back would be less than their value to the Sox. Guerra, Belisario, and Putnam should all be on the block.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 17, 2014 -> 10:51 AM) Jimmy will get a whole lot better simply by having other offensive options around him. He wasn't ready to be a primary scorer, and probably never will be. Except he wasn't a primary scorer last year. He still had a really low usage rate and was never a major part of the offense.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 17, 2014 -> 10:29 AM) Agree with that. A 19-year-old pitching admirably in AA as well as a righty who "could serve as a No. 4 starter as early as mid-2015" according to a preseason scouting report. Seems like that might be stretching Tank's value to the max. I can't imagine there is any way the Mariners make that deal but the Sox should do that in a heartbeat if it is possible.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 17, 2014 -> 10:20 AM) Bowden has an article on what it would take to acquire various players. He lists three teams that would have interest in Viciedo and what it would take for each team to acquire him. Mariners - One of Ackley, Montero, Saunders, or minor leaguers Victor Sanchez or Tyler Pike Reds - RHP Jackson Stephens and 3B Tanner Rahier Royals - RHP Christian Binford http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-gms-office/ If the Sox could actually get Victor Sanchez for Viciedo I would love that move.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 14, 2014 -> 10:42 PM) This has been rather awful though. Well that format won't be returning next year.