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http://www.minorleagueball.com/2016/12/7/1...ez-dane-dunning John Sickels' take on the Eaton deal

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:47 PM) Especially when Hahn is playing the role of Robert De Niro Somebody please photoshop Hahn as Robert DeNiro...

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) If you haven't seen these highlights of Lopez, wow wow wow. His stuff is insane ‪ Stuff is insane, delivery super sketchy.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:35 PM) The Astros have discussed a Jose Quintana deal with the White Sox but as of now find the price too steep. -- Jake Kaplan https://t.co/p43H4IqisC Astros: We want elite starting pitching White Sox: We have Sale and Quintana, here's the price... Astros: Nah too steep White Sox: F*** you, pay me Pony up already Houston!

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) Reed is falling in value; I know a lot of people here like him,but his 1/4 season really wasn't good. I might go for more volume here, assuming no Bregman. Astros have a lot of really good, but not elite, prospects, particularly position players. Same argument's been made regarding Giolito. I don't buy small samples, TBH. Reed was a top 20 prospect heading into 2016, with almost never before seen production in the Minors.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:21 PM) You said Rodgers + 2 or 3. We're in disagreement by one body. Okay, + 2 or 3 lesser ceiling or lesser performance guys. No chance you get 4 or 5 players of Rodgers caliber or ceiling for Q.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:15 PM) Moncada is much further along than Rodgers. Further, I was saying 4 or 5 of his caliber "or thereabouts". I'm not talking about his draft pedigree there, I'm talking about 4 or 5 players in that A/AA range that have high ceilings. Nonetheless both still top 10 MLB prospects, but I get what you're saying. I still don't think that would be a realistic ask though.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:09 PM) I get it. To me, that should be a complimentary piece for a guy like Quintana, not the centerpiece. I think it likely would be Martes/Tucker/Reed or 2 of em. We're on the same page lol. The original thing was that you said Bregman from Houston or Rodgers from Colo or no deal. Definitely a deal to be made for me with Houston without Bregman IMO.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:57 PM) Pretty much, yes. He's also 19. Assuming those rankings are somewhat accurate, there are reasons there are 49 other prospects ranked ahead of him. A top 100 current ranking isn't everything, is what I'm trying to say. He's the type of guy who will likely be a top 20 prospect by the end of 2017. Same with Blake Rutherford from the Yanks if he keeps continuing what he's doing. A guy like Maitain, who's what 70s or 80s could be a top 3 prospect in a year or 2. These are the type of lefty hitters we never seem to have and I personally would salivate over him in our org.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:47 PM) I need something better than a package starting with Tucker. Why because he's currently ranked as merely top 50 prospect? Look into him. IIRC, draft day his comp was Ted Williams. Not saying he'll be Ted Williams, but that is damn high praise for a high school hitter. The hit tool is as legitimate as anyone in the minors.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:47 PM) And they now have seen two other teams pay a high price for Sale and Eaton. They will be asking themselves the question soon...who do we need more, Bregman or Quintana? I still don't think they give up Bregman and I don't think Hahn demands him in a Q trade.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:40 PM) Yeah, I want either Rodgers or Bregman for Q, otherwise I am fine holding steady for now. Except Bregman was in the Majors and Rodgers was in A ball. They wouldn't budge on Bregman for Sale, why would they for Q? Rodgers will be where Bregman is now, in 2 years. I'm happy with Rodgers+++ or Tucker+++ (I'm very high on Tucker). Slightly would prefer Rodgers but I think Tucker ends up as a phenomenal hitter.

Why slow things down? Let's get all these prospects in our system and getting to know each other and playing (and hopefully winning) together. Why delay the inevitable? We have pieces that are hot to sell now. And popular acclaim has us making great or fair deals so far. We have the type of assets to move and get us rebuilt quicker than any other team has ever dreamt of. Not to mention Melky, Frazier, and Lawrie expire after '17 - they gotta go. And Robertson only has 2 years left.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:28 PM) Rodgers had an .821 OPS in A ball. I like that he's only 20 and looks ready for AA, but we're talking about Jose Quintana here. You should be getting 4 or 5 players of Rodgers quality or thereabouts for him. Rodgers is 20 years old and had 31 doubles and 19 home runs. He is by all accounts an elite, elite prospect and would look very nice at 3B in the future for us. You didn't get 4 or 5 Moncadas for Sale, did you? Why would you get 4 or 5 Rodgers for Q? Rodgers is a top 10 prospect in all of baseball. Rodgers + 2 or 3 guys gets it done.

QUOTE (Real @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:47 PM) that isn't better than what we got for eaton, they're highly ranked but this is Quintana here. Astros just don't seem like a good return imo Kyle Tucker has the potential to be a better hitter than Collins or Moncada. Seriously.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:46 PM) I would definitely want Tucker back. No exceptions. 100% must or bust.

QUOTE (ChiSox1917 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:45 PM) Reed/Martes/Tucker would do it for me personally. I love Reed & Tucker, but I know some here don't I'd be ecstatic too.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:48 PM) We needed position players. We needed to target those types of players. Some pitching is fine. Almost all pitching is terrible. That is our problem now. How is that fixing anything? I mean apparently the plan is to keep doing the exact same thing we have been doing, but it is great because it will be new players doing it? Blah. I hate this so much. Braves of the 90s. Braves of the present. Pitching talent and depth with defense can win games just like hitting and defense does. Besides, why does it matter what position these guys play? If we truly build up a cache of pitching like ATL has, trade it for guys you need.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:14 PM) Yep, look at what Tyler Thornburg got the Brewers yesterday. A guy who was a decent major leaguer and two solid prospects. Jones could potentially bring back something similar. If not even more. Jones has a super friendly contract whereas Thornburg is going thru arb, I believe.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:13 PM) Like it or not, this almost forces us to move Q just to clear roles. With the collection of young pitching, I almost wanna assume Hahn is looking towards a Rodon trade once he breaks out.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:32 PM) I'd much rather do: Quintana to Houston for Martes, Tucker, Reed+ and Eaton to Washington for Robles, Lopez/Ross, and Severino This is about what I'm expecting. Can't be too displeased turning 3 MLB players into 10 or so highly talented guys.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) Q/Eaton are so much surplus, Turner has to be part of it, or I don't see how it makes sense for the White Sox. I think trading your 2 most valuable assets to the same team probably isn't the best way to maximize value in a return. Everything here is on point.

Eh, not a fan of packaging them unless Turner/Giolito/Robles all involved.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:58 AM) Correct We move up to #11 (although I don't believe we get additional bonus pool money as a result) Texas gets a comp A round pick Awesome.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) The Rockies gave Desmond 5 years / $70 million AND forfeited the #11 overall pick in the draft Huge ouch in my opinion. I would have sought other options before giving up a top 15 draft pick So the Rox lose the 11th overall pick and the Rangers gain a compensation round pick right? Allowing us to move from the 12th to 11th overall pick?