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Guys like Dejong, Pham, and Vaughn etc. get moved all the time at the deadline.

That would be awesome.

I'm very curious about the times you have pretended to be a billionaire.

Its amazing they are as bad as they are with the starting pitching they have gotten.

Go through my post history. I have said most of the guys on the team suck. I haven't even made any statements about Eder except about a month ago I said he was lining up to debut in the majors within the next year and some of the usual suspects acted like I was making outlandish assumptions. The guy is the 27th man today and will probably go to AAA next... A normal response from WS2023 and TRU would be, "Yeah, he's probably up sooner rather than later." Not trying to argue they are still correct. You can think the team is bad and still live in reality.

So you two are digging in and still think he's two years away. Got it.

Seems like just yesterday WS2023 was saying Eder was more than a year away from the majors.

lol these Baltimore guys are so weird.

What should we expect for Pham? An ok bullpen arm or is there a chance to get a future every day player?

Elias is a p****. Crochet will go to a team with a GM that isn't.

TLR is "Special Advisor to the Executive Vice President" but they no longer have an Executive Vice President.

A group of pioneers are on the Oregon Trail heading west. The group is led by Kenneth and Richard who recruited the pioneers and obtained all the wagons, oxen, and supplies. The front left wheel keep breaking on the large wagon every month. There is an ox that seems to pull its muscles seemingly every time you cross into a new state. One of your best hunters who spent too much time at the Saloons in Northwest Indiana keeps getting dysentery. Gerald, the patriarch of the group gets embarrassed that the group is taking longer than it should to travel the trail. He tells Kenneth and Richard they are no longer allowed to lead everyone. He appoints Christopher to take their place when they reach Idaho. They stop at a little town outside Boise. Christopher would love to get rid of that faulty wagon wheel and get a new one, buy a brand new healthy ox, and find a hunter who is more dependable. Gerald tells him he doesn't have enough money left. They only have enough to get a used spare wagon wheel, a mule in case the strong ox gets hurt again, and give hunting lessons to a young kid in the travel party. It is less than ideal, but they only have to make it one more state before they get to their destination and can rid themselves of all the crappy stuff Kenneth and Richard purchased. Once they get to Oregon, they will be free to start anew. Immediately after leaving town, the ox pulls his hamstring, the hunter passes out due to illness, and the wagon wheel cracks in half. They put the reins on the mule, hand the rifle to the young hunter-in-training, and replace the wagon wheel with the makeshift spare. It is taking the group longer than most anyone has ever took to travel from Idaho to Oregon. Three guys in the back of the travel party keep blaming Christopher and saying "he should have known" about the wheel, hunter, and injury prone ox.

I always laugh when I think of before his last contract here when Jerry made public statements saying "I'm bringing him back no matter what" and Jose was saying similar things like, "I'm not going anywhere" and someone asked Rick Hahn about it and he goes "Well, this one is not going to be taught in any law school negotiation classes anytime soon."

Then I'd definitely hold on to the two big guys. Unless you think you can trade Crochet and Robert for pitching and then deal minor league pitching for hitting. But then you better self-scout real well... and if no one is giving you bats for Robert or Crochet, why would they give you bats for Ky Bush and Peyton Pallette?

This is so insane. Can't be true.

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That's fine. The other guy acts like Fletcher and DeLoach were costly acquisitions that were meant to be franchise cornerstones. Its bizarre. There's a million things to criticize the organization about in the last decade. Zach DeLoach and Dom Fletcher are far far down that list.

They traded an ok minor league starter (who has an ERA in the high 4s in AAA) that had fallen behind their other pitching prospects for an outfielder who hit 300 in a small sample size last year. He has been bad in an even smaller sample size this year. This was during an offseason where he had to cut payroll and needed OF depth and after it was clear they weren't getting a MLB ready OFer from Baltimore for Cease. Do you really not understand any of that or are you just so weirdly obsessed with Chris Getz?

This is such a stupid and unserious criticism. DeLoach was one of three pieces in a deal for an injured bullpen arm. Who said he was going to take over RF? You act like he was the main target this offseason and they signed him to a big extension. He's just some dude they got in a trade. Would you have rather that they just refused to take a third player?

I would have thought Schriffen would be more excited for that Maldonado rbi hit to break the hitless streak

Stiever was drafted in 2018. Same with Pilkington. At this point in the last rebuild, we didn't have them. Alec Hansen, if I remember correctly, kinda fizzled once he made it to AA. Fulmer was always kind of shitty even in the short time he spent in the minors before coming up. I agree with everyone who points out most of the guys we have now will not reach their best case scenario and there will be a lot of busts.. and you're all right that they did have a lot of pitching last rebuild. But this group is deeper (maybe less top end talent)... And, without looking at the stats, it seems like they are all performing better in the minors than the previous rebuild.

Just looking at Phillies prospect list... I know nothing about him but I'd like a Gabriel Rincones type on this team for 1b/DH. Seems like he is a AA left handed power bat (can't field or run). Would he be the type of prospect we can get for Pham or is that too much (or too little)?

PNoles & co. would also be the first to crap on a prospect package that reflected his "Robert is similar to Moncada" tweet.

Yeah I heard he's like the extreme opposite. Let the players do anything.