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Lol... someone here said they heard it on a "white sox discord" and there are pages of the same 10 posters riling each other up over something that is highly unlikely to happen.

That's ground ball rate and chase rate in his case?

Can someone explain to me how someone goes from being a consensus top 5 prospect in MLB and having a good rookie season in 2023 to not being worth acquiring for Fedde in less than one season?

I’m at a bar with no sound so maybe I can’t tell…. I see him hitting 100 mph and guys getting bunt hits and infielders missing the ball. Why is this evidence that he hit a wall?

He said he didn't want to be used as an opener?

"Recently, Garrett expressed concern about his innings, workload, and desire to not move to the bullpen. To accommodate him, we want to send him to the minors so he can continue to pitch according to the plan that Garrett and his agents have said they want to stick to. Unfortunately, winning games is the number one priority at the major league level and we want to make sure Garrett feels comfortable with his role." Then send his ass down to pitch to blocked Orioles prospects in Norfolk.

The guy has made one trade similar to the ones he's trying to make right now and it looks pretty decent at the moment. No idea how you can say "he just doesn't know what to do." If he traded Crochet and Robert (who are under team control) for less than they are worth, that would be embarrassing.

lol... "We need all 10 prospects because in 5 years, some of our players will leave in free agency"

They just traded for a guy making 18 milllion dollars next year who has been in MLB for 9 years and is essentially a 4.00 era pitcher every year. I'd argue if you aren't going to spend, you need to trade guys for a cost controlled front of the rotation guy. Otherwise, its just hoping you get lucky.

Orioles are going to waste their window and I love it.

Doesn't think Crochet is traded now. Said he confirmed with someone familiar with Crochet that yesterday's report was accurate. Implied Orioles would want more of a swing and miss type than Fedde. Dodgers want reliability and is more of a fit with Fedde. Robert's likelihood to be traded decreased substantially after Mariners/Phillies deals. Robert track record is "variable"

Jon Morosi is going on the Score now. Maybe he'll give us some insight into Getz's thoughts on the Crochet thing. That's his guy, right?

I'd send him down at 5:01pm on July 30.

How long would he need to stay down? They were good to him this year and he fucked them at the end.

If I owned the Orioles, I'd let Elias run things for 50 weeks out of the year and then I'd bring in Kenny Williams to be his boss for a week in December and a week in July.

I am shocked that Crochet and his camp dropped this extension thing so late. That's ridiculous.

The more I think about this, the more I don't even understand how it would work. He tells them "give me $X and I'll pitch in the postseason." They give him $X. Then postseason comes around... what if he's sore? They just extended him because he intended to pitch in October as of July 31? I feel like this story doesn't make a ton of sense.

This is all new information to us but I highly doubt it is new information for the other teams. I'm sure they have had conversations about his availability, innings limits, and what he is comfortable with. If we all knew he wanted to stay on a starter's schedule, Cashman and Friedman did too. He has been in trade rumors for months. It's unlikely Crochet and his agent all of a sudden decided to tell everyone they want an extension on July 25. To me, it sounds like the type of news report you get right before he is dealt. If he isn't traded this week, that's fine. Be careful with him the rest of the season and trade him in the offseason if you don't want to extend him. Not a huge difference if he gets traded July 30 or December 15.

huh?

Everyone in the universe has known about the innings issue since April. To me, this sounds like something has been agreed to and the acquiring team has been given a window to work something out with Crochet before its finalized.

Now I think he's gone.

Unless you're Mike Elias...

I need a trade ASAP or at least a good juicy rumor. I can't take these stupid updates from the reporters saying stuff like, "White Sox are sellers."

Anyone know what this is about?

That would be the only reason, right? Unless the high school kid is telling teams he's not interested in signing... Is that done anymore?