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Teams don't expect Sale trade at winter meetings

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Posture posture.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 04:56 PM)
Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst 26s27 seconds ago Jayson Stark Retweeted Daryl Van Schouwen

 

Surveyed several teams that are in on Sale this afternoon. They don't expect him to get moved at the meetings. The price hasn't dropped.

 

Nor will the price drop

 

If a team wants Sale they know what it is going to take

 

Elite Aces do not grow on trees

I know this tweet means nothing on the otherhand I would prefer TRADE IMMINENT STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND ONLY REFRESH TWITTER.

This process is so painful. I get sticking to your guns but an empty Winter Meetings would be absolutely deflating as a fan.

QUOTE (Username @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 04:58 PM)
This process is so painful. I get sticking to your guns but an empty Winter Meetings would be absolutely deflating as a fan.

 

It will be deflating no matter what happens. It's terrible when your favorite team has to trade one of the best players you will ever witness in their uniform because the organization is so bad top to bottom.

The Art of Negotiation, a novel by Rick Hahn

Good, as it should be. Hold your ground, someone will get desperate. If they don't, their loss and we keep him and try again at the mid-season & next off-season, albeit a great free agency.

Good. Get what you want, Ricky.

If we don't trade Sale hen I am fine with it. We are taring to see prospects from our own system devel;op. You build around pitching-that is still the name of the game IMO. We get what we demnd for a player of Sale's ability or we don't trade. PERIOD END OF STORY

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:00 PM)
The Art of Negotiation, a novel by Rick Hahn

We'll see about that.

I'll buy the book IF he makes a deal.

 

In the meantime, the Sox should be selling a bunch of other guys.

 

 

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:05 PM)
If we don't trade Sale hen I am fine with it. We are taring to see prospects from our own system devel;op. You build around pitching-that is still the name of the game IMO. We get what we demnd for a player of Sale's ability or we don't trade. PERIOD END OF STORY

 

I'd be fine with it too. As someone else noted:

 

Some Team: Hey we want to trade for Sale.

Sox: Ok, it'll take Prospect A, C, D, G

Some Team: I don't want to trade Prospect A. There's a chance he might be as impactful as Chris Sale, even though he's proven almost nothing at the major league level.

Sox: Ok, *click*

 

I understand the Dodgers not dealing Urias if the Sox want other top guys in addition to him. I don't understand a trade with Houston where they don't move Bregmann. We're not asking for Carlos Correa there, though Sale should be able to fetch somone of his caliber (Sale is legit Top 3 pitcher in baseball and probably the 2nd best lefty given performance and longevity and contract).

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:09 PM)
We'll see about that.

I'll buy the book IF he makes a deal.

 

In the meantime, the Sox should be selling a bunch of other guys.

 

Meh. If you can't get what you want for Sale, may as well try to win while you got him. I am not suggesting we go out and sign EE and Wieters, but Wellington Castillo and Carlos Gomez would work if we can't get a marquee return for Sale.

 

That said, would be curious to hear Hahn's interview today. Will have to wait until I get home as I can't get on twitter at work.

Edited by ChiSox59

Time to start signing some free agents than.....lets make a run in 2017!

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:05 PM)
If we don't trade Sale hen I am fine with it. We are taring to see prospects from our own system devel;op. You build around pitching-that is still the name of the game IMO. We get what we demnd for a player of Sale's ability or we don't trade. PERIOD END OF STORY

 

If teams aren't willing to give up "untouchable" prospects, we can likely get similar packages at the trade deadline or next winter. No need to rush.

 

If we can't get fair value for Sale, I just hope there are enough free agents left to coble something together for another shot at it in 2017.

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 03:00 PM)
The Art of Negotiation, a novel by Rick Hahn

He's been writing it since 2014. The guys been showing the league that he doesn't fold and says what he does. The price for Sale hasn't dropped for years now. Teams who want him have to know by now that Hahn isn't bluffing.

How good is the James Shields chapter? Pretty good?

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 03:19 PM)
How good is the James Shields chapter? Pretty good?

That was a foreword by Ken Williams ;)

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:19 PM)
How good is the James Shields chapter? Pretty good?

 

I think that should be a forward written by KW, haha

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:13 PM)
Meh. If you can't get what you want for Sale, may as well try to win while you got him. I am not suggesting we go out and sign EE and Wieters, but Wellington Castillo and Carlos Gomez would work if we can't get a marquee return for Sale.

 

That said, would be curious to hear Hahn's interview today. Will have to wait until I get home as I can't get on twitter at work.

True.

But then again, if they can't trade Sale now, with the FA market so devoid of pitching, when are they going to be able to trade him? At some point, Hahn needs to do his job and actually produce.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:21 PM)
That was a foreword by Ken Williams ;)

 

PTATC is going to come out of nowhere to say "UNBELIEVABLE"

Where's the KW book on how he was behind the Eaton, Tim Anderson and Abreu moves?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:22 PM)
True.

But then again, if they can't trade Sale now, with the FA market so devoid of pitching, when are they going to be able to trade him? At some point, Hahn needs to do his job and actually produce.

 

Trade him in a year or two when you can actually get somebody to handover fair value. I do not support a Sale trade just to move on.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 06:34 PM)
Where's the KW book on how he was behind the Eaton, Tim Anderson and Abreu moves?

 

There's only one copy and it sits on JR's desk.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:09 PM)
We'll see about that.

I'll buy the book IF he makes a deal.

 

In the meantime, the Sox should be selling a bunch of other guys.

 

Agreed. I'll be extremely disappointed if the Sox leave the Winter Meetings having done nothing significant.

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