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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+

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QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:31 PM)
Pretty sure the bulk of that is sunk costs for Boston at this point, certainly the signing bonus and penalty.

 

It's sort of funny, to date, Boston has probably paid more for Moncada than we have for Sale.

 

Yeah the money is done. They paid Moncada his signing bonus and MLB the penalty tax.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:33 PM)
He's never played in AAA before. I think he'll start in AAA.

He was in the majors last year.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:29 AM)
Aaron Rowand 15 years ago.

Yeah, this has to be it.

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:32 PM)
Dombrowski probably just wrapped up Executive of the Year Award. He gets a sure fire Cy Young candidate and doesn't give up one guy from his major league roster.

 

So how about giving the credit to the guys who actually built up Boston's farm system?

 

DD was handed plenty to work with.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:24 PM)
Sox also reached out to Derek Holland according to reports

 

This would be a Sox move. Rehab & potentially flip/keep. Miguel Gonzalez, Humber, etc

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:31 PM)
Pretty sure the bulk of that is sunk costs for Boston at this point, certainly the signing bonus and penalty.

 

It's sort of funny, to date, Boston has probably paid more for Moncada than we have for Sale.

 

Probably? It is not even close. Boston has paid Moncada nearly $65M. The Sox have paid Sale about $20M + original signing bonus.

 

Boston will ahve paid Moncada probably double what he'll make with the Sox over 6-7 years.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:33 PM)
So how about giving the credit to the guys who actually built up Boston's farm system?

 

DD was handed plenty to work with.

 

DD giveth, DD take it away.

Technically Boston did give up a guy from their lineup. With Shaw traded Moncada was in line for 3B. But now it's Panda with Devers about 2 years away.

QUOTE (Soxnfins @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:33 PM)
This would be a Sox move. Rehab & potentially flip/keep. Miguel Gonzalez, Humber, etc

 

I keep forgetting he exists lol maybe we can flip him for an interesting prospect or two.

From that video the obvious comp is Robbie Cano, right?

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:37 PM)
So Benintendi or Moncada, who would you have preferred to be involved here?

The best prospect in baseball, whom we got.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:34 PM)
I keep forgetting he exists lol maybe we can flip him for an interesting prospect or two.

 

He should be kept as part of the rebuild imo. He's cheap and offers some upside.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:34 PM)
From that video the obvious comp is Robbie Cano, right?

The comps are Cano but faster.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:34 PM)
Technically Boston did give up a guy from their lineup. With Shaw traded Moncada was in line for 3B. But now it's Panda with Devers about 2 years away.

 

I never saw that Moncada was going to start in the MLB next year or ever felt that vibe. I would have put money on him going to AAA. Especially since Panda is there at 3B.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:33 PM)
So how about giving the credit to the guys who actually built up Boston's farm system?

 

DD was handed plenty to work with.

I'm not saying that. He didn't touch his major league roster and landed the best LH in the American League. That's a steal.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:35 PM)
The comps are Cano but faster.

 

I'll take that.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:35 PM)
I never saw that Moncada was going to start in the MLB next year or ever felt that vibe. I would have put money on him going to AAA. Especially since Panda is there at 3B.

 

Shaw would have been starting. Moncada was the "backup" plan. Panda I think they just wanted to bury. But they cant now.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:35 PM)
He should be kept as part of the rebuild imo. He's cheap and offers some upside.

 

Trade him and bring him back in 2018 when he is a free agent.

Man Frazier just seems perfect for the Red Sox, can't believe he wasn't in the package.

This is from the Red Sox forum:

 

Unless Groome is one of the other prospects, this is way less than any of the fantasy packages we (self included) have been throwing together over the past year.

 

Most feel that they underpaid for this deal (does not happen with normal Red Sox meatheads)

 

They are also skeptical if Moncada will ever figure out how to hit the breaking pitches, strikeout numbers is a concern.

 

 

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:36 PM)
Man Frazier just seems perfect for the Red Sox, can't believe he wasn't in the package.

 

They have Devers. LAD could use Frazier if Turner signs elsewhere.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:37 PM)
They have Devers. LAD could use Frazier if Turner signs elsewhere.

 

Devers isnt playing this year or next year

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:35 PM)
I'm not saying that. He didn't touch his major league roster and landed the best LH in the American League. That's a steal.

 

Well, that's what you can do with a farm system with the #1, #5, #16, #30, and #67 prospects in baseball, per MLB.com.

 

I believe all those guys except #30 (Groome) pre-dated his tenure.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:37 PM)
This is from the Red Sox forum:

 

 

 

Most feel that they underpaid for this deal (does not happen with normal Red Sox meatheads)

 

They are also skeptical if Moncada will ever figure out how to hit the breaking pitches, strikeout numbers is a concern.

 

Yeah man, I'm pretty nervous about this deal. Nervous, excited, disappointed, sad lol

I'm also concerned with Monacada's contact / hit tool but it's hard to argue with him being a great headliner.

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