Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 07:01 PM) Just because they aren't on the list for the biggest ones doesn't mean they don't have guys down the list already committed to. I know that. That's not what Badler is insinuating though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Until I see "White Sox interested in prospect Luis Robert" I will officially buy into the possibility haha not just speculation. None of this "could have interest." Edited March 2, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Baseball AmericaVerified account @BaseballAmerica 27m27 minutes ago More The #WhiteSox look like the favorites to land 🇨🇺star prospect Luis Robert: http://bit.ly/2mdDaaR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Maybe a dumb question - but what if the Sox sign Robert to a 6 year deal and he spends the first two years in the minors? Would he only have 4 years left on his deal when he is brought up to the bigs? Similar question has come up with friends when discussing Moncada's contract. I know for Abreu he was signed for the 6/68 but he didn't spend any time in the minors so this didn't impact him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (pablo @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:51 AM) Maybe a dumb question - but what if the Sox sign Robert to a 6 year deal and he spends the first two years in the minors? Would he only have 4 years left on his deal when he is brought up to the bigs? Similar question has come up with friends when discussing Moncada's contract. I know for Abreu he was signed for the 6/68 but he didn't spend any time in the minors so this didn't impact him. The money would be a signing bonus. He would have the same control as if he were a draft pick and would go through the arbitration process. Edited March 2, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:42 AM) Baseball AmericaVerified account @BaseballAmerica 27m27 minutes ago More The #WhiteSox look like the favorites to land 🇨🇺star prospect Luis Robert: http://bit.ly/2mdDaaR The other thing (besides the idea that the Sox are going to do a complete 180 on what they have always done) that doesn't make sense to me here is why a team that is already over for the 2016-17 period wouldn't be willing to outspend the White Sox for this guy if he is the next Moncada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:42 AM) Baseball AmericaVerified account @BaseballAmerica 27m27 minutes ago More The #WhiteSox look like the favorites to land 🇨🇺star prospect Luis Robert: http://bit.ly/2mdDaaR YES!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (pablo @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:51 AM) Maybe a dumb question - but what if the Sox sign Robert to a 6 year deal and he spends the first two years in the minors? Would he only have 4 years left on his deal when he is brought up to the bigs? Similar question has come up with friends when discussing Moncada's contract. I know for Abreu he was signed for the 6/68 but he didn't spend any time in the minors so this didn't impact him. You can't sign these players to major league deals anymore. It is a minor league deal with a signing bonus that counts towards your international signing pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:55 AM) The other thing (besides the idea that the Sox are going to do a complete 180 on what they have always done) that doesn't make sense to me here is why a team that is already over for the 2016-17 period wouldn't be willing to outspend the White Sox for this guy if he is the next Moncada? Yeah the Padres could continue adding to their stacked 2016-2017 international class. This is true. I would honestly put them as favorites over us. Edited March 2, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:56 AM) YES!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Isn't this the exact same thing we heard yesterday from the exact same source? lol calm the excitement a bit haha Edited March 2, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) Isn't this the exact same thing we heard yesterday from the exact same source? lol It is a repost of the same story, with a new headline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) It is a repost of the same story, with a new headline. Thought so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:56 AM) You can't sign these players to major league deals anymore. It is a minor league deal with a signing bonus that counts towards your international signing pool. Ahhhh thank you gentlemen - much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:56 AM) Yeah the Padres could continue adding to their stacked 2016-2017 international class. This is true. I would honestly put them as favorites over us. The Nationals are a big spending team out of the bunch that is over for this year. They know this is their last shot at prime players for two years (if cleared before 6/15) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 He sounds a lot more like Soler to me than Moncada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 09:19 AM) He sounds a lot more like Soler to me than Moncada. This guy at least athletic? Didn't really read the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 09:27 AM) This guy at least athletic? Didn't really read the article. Yeah, they think he can play center. Soler is athletic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) Isn't this the exact same thing we heard yesterday from the exact same source? lol calm the excitement a bit haha I don't know haha, but I'd be pumped if the Sox picked him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 09:56 AM) I don't know haha, but I'd be pumped if the Sox picked him up. It would be a nice boost for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:59 AM) The Nationals are a big spending team out of the bunch that is over for this year. They know this is their last shot at prime players for two years (if cleared before 6/15) Ted Lerner doesn't even want to spend money on David Robertson. I doubt he gives the go ahead for more international signings. Ben Badler doesn't typically make mistakes. This is uncommon and unchartered territory for the Sox but when Baseball America pushes this hard and Ben Badler specifically, it's usually a good indicator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 So there will be a 100% tax on any team before 6/15 right? Sox may have 2 million or so in the deal that would be not taxed at that rate but hard to know how much that will matter. If he signs 10 million, that's 20 million to the Padres and 18 million to the sox. Is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Robert would be an absolute potential cornerstone for the team as they rebuild. It feels an absolute need in that he's an athlete with a chance to stick in a premium position. The Sox signing him would be like the Red Sox landing Moncada or the Cubs landing Soler Or other examples of a talent rich system landing a generational talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 If you can sign a prospect of Robert's caliber right now, I think you got to do it. Sucks not being able to sign guys for above $300k for two periods, but it's not the end of the world IMO. And honestly, we can still trade any excess bonus allotments we might end up with for some more advanced, stateside prospects. Robert just seems too good to pass up IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 09:19 AM) He sounds a lot more like Soler to me than Moncada. White Sox did bid $25 million on Soler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 The Sox can't shy away from this opportunity because he "might" be Jorge Soler 2.0 These guys with insane upside don't grow on trees, he's well worth the risk even if he amounts to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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