StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 01:16 PM) https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/823609680572256256 Spicer tells White House press corps his intention is to tell the truth: “Sometimes we can disagree with the facts” ""Doing something that either protects America or is in our economic interests." -on military action after Trump wink-winking about getting a second go at Iraq to 'take their oil,' my estimate on him launching a war within the year is 50%. oh and of course they're still trying to argue about TV ratings and inauguration attendance. Day 4 of the Trump Administration is going swimmingly. Natalie Jackson @nataliemjb "Let's add the Nielsen ratings of 31 million to CNN's 16.9 million..." -Spicer has no clue how ratings work. CNN is already in that 31M. 1:12 PM - 23 Jan 2017 and regarding Trump's bizarre speech to the CIA: "...and then everybody stood up and clapped" Edited January 23, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 01:32 PM) ""Doing something that either protects America or is in our economic interests." -on military action after Trump wink-winking about getting a second go at Iraq to 'take their oil,' my estimate on him launching a war within the year is 50%. Also we won't let the environment get in the way of jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 01:34 PM) Also we won't let the environment get in the way of jobs. It will take this country generations to repair the damage that this administration and congress will do. e: Spicer spent several minutes complaining that Trump's feelings get very, very hurt by negative press coverage and that it just isn't fair. Edited January 23, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 For people saying Melania is off limits, nice video of her on the Joy Behar show a few years ago pushing the birther movement pretty hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) Get used to hearing the word "robust." He did do much better with the press this time around...and the Cassidy/Collins health care fix has some pretty interesting suggestions in it, to be fair. How the CBO scores it, who knows, but it appears they're willing to allow any state that wants to keep ACA can do that...the coordination and plan can be turned over to individual states OR people can decline coverade completely with no penalty. With the health savings accounts, it will basically automatically add everyone into those programs just like Social Security works, so technically more people will be receiving SOME form of coverage. Obviously evening out the risk pools will be the key, but that's the first time in years an actual plan has been presented by the GOP. In fact, by allowing states to choose, it shows the potential to pick off Democratic states/senators whose objections should be muted by being able to retain Obamacare. Pretty smart politics, and it was basically forced on them by Trump, instead of merely repealing it. As it stands right now, 30 million Americans are still without coverage. The infrastructure investments will be popular because the cities/mayors will have access to those funds...instead of it being under state control like the Obama infrastructure money early in his administrstion, which wasn't allocated all that effectively or efficiently imo. Edited January 23, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 We are becoming Russia. President Drumpf Declared His Inauguration A "National Day Of Patriotic Devotion" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 DoD trolling Trump on twitter? https://twitter.com/DeptofDefense/status/823515639302262784 Social media postings sometimes provide an important window into a person’s #mentalhealth. Know what to look for. http://go.usa.gov/x9yVB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) We are becoming Russia. President Drumpf Declared His Inauguration A "National Day Of Patriotic Devotion" Or North Korea How the f*** did so many people vote for this clown? How are we only 4 days in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:25 PM) Or North Korea How the f*** did so many people vote for this clown? How are we only 4 days in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 John McCain. "President Trump’s decision to formally withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership is a serious mistake that will have lasting consequences for America’s economy and our strategic position in the Asia-Pacific region," he said. "This decision will forfeit the opportunity to promote American exports, reduce trade barriers, open new markets, and protect American invention and innovation. It will create an opening for China to rewrite the economic rules of the road at the expense of American workers. And it will send a troubling signal of American disengagement in the Asia-Pacific region at a time we can least afford it." "Abandoning TPP is the wrong decision," he continued. "Moving forward, it is imperative that America advances a positive trade agenda in the Asia-Pacific that will keep American workers and companies competitive in one of the most economically vibrant and fastest-growing regions in the world." Many mainstream Republicans and economists were in favor of the agreement. Prior to the election, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who sought the Republican Party's presidential nomination in this cycle, was tapped by Obama to help promote the deal and get Congress to pass the agreement. The National Taxpayers Union, a conservative taxpayers advocacy organization, also said Trump's move to withdraw from the agreement was not the best decision. "President Trump should re-engage in TPP negotiations while pursuing these pro-growth goals and resist a move toward protectionism," NTU’s Executive Vice President Brandon Arnold said in a statement. "Further, as the president reexamines NAFTA, he should strive to update and modernize the agreement in a manner that reduces the taxes and burdens that impede international commerce." The decision was also met with skepticism from those in other countries involved in the multi-lateral deal. Roland Paris, a former foreign policy adviser to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, went as far as saying the decision to dip out of TPP — considered by some to be a renegotiation of NAFTA as both Canada and Mexico were involved in the deal — was a huge win for China. "Historians will look back at US cancellation of TPP as a major milestone in America's retreat from global leadership," he tweeted. "Big winner: China." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Still insisting he didn't lose the popular vote because of 3-5 million illegal votes. Without evidence, Trump tells lawmakers 3 million to 5 million illegal ballots cost him the popular vote This is going to lead to increased vote suppression efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 I truly believe Trump is trying to take us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:47 PM) I truly believe Trump is trying to take us down. Anything to make himself feel important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) I listened to a really well informed guy on CSPAN. Their best estimate was 12-13 million undocumented, currently, and 900k with criminal backgrounds/prior arrests. Obama has surprisingly effected roughly 2.5 million, or thereabouts. Someone called in to argue that 9 million illegal immigrants voted for Trump somehow, with no evidence...and that he would have won the popular vote by 9, forgetting he lost by 2.9-3 million. Then there's the old, if he had actually contested NY and California he would have won the popular vote theory. You know who never once mentioned the popular vote and electoral college in their speeches? Abraham Lincoln. He never cared about popularity his entire life, neither did Truman. Edited January 24, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 First of all Trump is wrong. According to this very message board Trump couldnt have "lost" because he didnt try. (insert laughter) Second of all, I think we can now say that Bernie Sanders somehow mindf***ed America. TPP/NAFTA/free trade were all in line with Republican ideals, now they are on their way out because of Trump ideas. When you read Sanderes on the issues ( http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_San..._Free_Trade.htm ) its almost as if Trump is just parroting Sanders. NAFTA, CAFTA, PNTR have been a disaster for the American worker. A lot of corporations that shut down here move abroad. Working people understand that after NAFTA, CAFTA, PNTR with China we have lost millions of decent paying jobs. When you remove the "I voted against" part, its basically Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 11:00 PM) First of all Trump is wrong. According to this very message board Trump couldnt have "lost" because he didnt try. (insert laughter) Second of all, I think we can now say that Bernie Sanders somehow mindf***ed America. TPP/NAFTA/free trade were all in line with Republican ideals, now they are on their way out because of Trump ideas. When you read Sanderes on the issues ( http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_San..._Free_Trade.htm ) its almost as if Trump is just parroting Sanders. When you remove the "I voted against" part, its basically Trump. Trump has had mixed messages about big banks (mostly critical but look at his Cabinet) and virtually nothing to say about free universal tuition....btw, they're now phasing the latter program in the state of Rhode Island under a Dem. governor. Yes, much smaller state with only three schools affected. Similar conflicts internally about military/isolationism, although Trump clearly wants to be super popular with them, as he probably fashions himself qualified to be a general and attended a military boarding school. You can't increase the defense budget and VA budget by 20% and be isolationist simultaneously unless we're simply planning on utilizing missile defense strategies to counter-punch. And there is one significant benefit with Trump so far...he's stopping his own party from running away on ethics oversight and he's really forcing them to come up with what just might be a better version of the ACA after 22 years of partisanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 11:00 PM) First of all Trump is wrong. According to this very message board Trump couldnt have "lost" because he didnt try. (insert laughter) Second of all, I think we can now say that Bernie Sanders somehow mindf***ed America. TPP/NAFTA/free trade were all in line with Republican ideals, now they are on their way out because of Trump ideas. When you read Sanderes on the issues ( http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_San..._Free_Trade.htm ) its almost as if Trump is just parroting Sanders. When you remove the "I voted against" part, its basically Trump. Trump/Sanders/sort of Clinton arrayed against Obama, and then the entire GOP that could never cooperate with him as president. http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/23/politics/tru...know/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/23/opinions/kil...nion/index.html Bad for Americans, great for China Bizarro World, then you have Bannon (brilliant mind pretending to be alt-right), Conway (requisite blonde spokeswoman who faithfully defends his every word), Kushner (lifelong Jewish Democrat who's already trying to control the gates to Trump, especially against Conway) and Priebus, Mr. GOP Establishment. Team of Rivals indeed. Maybe Trump and Sanders can align together for 2020, haha...adding universal free tuition/vouchers available on an indexed needs based score (good for final two years of university, with qualifying GPA of let's say a 2.5 GPA) to the platform. Mind-F***ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 11:00 PM) First of all Trump is wrong. According to this very message board Trump couldnt have "lost" because he didnt try. (insert laughter) you need help in reading your own post. Check the examples from the definition you provided from what was it the Oxford dictionary? (insert sadness for Soxbadger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Trump reinstated the global "gag order" forbidding US foreign aid funding going to any NGO's that so much as discuss abortion Trump just reinstated the global gag rule. It won't stop abortion, but it will make it less safe. Thousands of women will die across the world, and millions will lose access to both safe abortion and birth control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:25 PM) Or North Korea How the f*** did so many people vote for this clown? How are we only 4 days in? His boasting to politicians that there were 3 million to 5 million illegal votes, thus costing him the popular vote is like Kim Jong Il boasting he had 11 holes in one the first time he golfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 08:09 AM) His boasting to politicians that there were 3 million to 5 million illegal votes, thus costing him the popular vote is like Kim Jong Il boasting he had 11 holes in one the first time he golfed. Isn't is possible that some the illegal votes went Trump's way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Trump brings his own cheering section. http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/23/cbs...-cia-visit.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 03:28 PM) Isn't is possible that some the illegal votes went Trump's way? Nope, 100% of illegals voted for Hillary. And the liberals in California just let them do it. And these millions of illegals all risked felonies/deportation because they love Hillary so much. In a state that she had no chance of losing in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 08:30 AM) Trump brings his own cheering section. http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/23/cbs...-cia-visit.html Spicer made it a point to point out the clapping. Trump also boasted how probably all the people in the room voted for him. This would be hysterical if it wasn't so sickening. And the millions upon millions who fall for this show is disgusting. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 QUOTE (brett05 @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 06:55 AM) you need help in reading your own post. Check the examples from the definition you provided from what was it the Oxford dictionary? (insert sadness for Soxbadger) Mr. Spicer strikes again. This guy is gold, even Trump who loves his Trumptionary isnt willing to go all 1984 on whether he lost: In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally. Soooo by your logic, he actually wouldnt have "won" because he really wasnt competing anyway. 1984! 1984! You are definitely blackwhite on this, but the bellyfeel for Trump is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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