chitownsportsfan Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 3, 2017 -> 02:10 PM) Regarding his defense, he may actually have improved. In both 2016 and 2017 his UZR and DRS numbers are both positive, and in this Fangraphs article about the new Statcast defensive data he was the 4th most improved outfielder defensively from 2015 to 2016. Obviously a pretty small sample size, but at the very least I think it's fair to say he's no longer a disaster out there. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/examining-t...-probabilities/ It's nice seeing development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 And here I thought we were supposed to nontender him and it was a waste to bring him back on this team. I'm sure everyone would rather see more May and Asche though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Anyone know the longest stretch so far this year when Avi hasn't got a hit ? I'm going to guess like 5 official AB's. He's been very consistent . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 3, 2017 -> 12:10 PM) Regarding his defense, he may actually have improved. In both 2016 and 2017 his UZR and DRS numbers are both positive, and in this Fangraphs article about the new Statcast defensive data he was the 4th most improved outfielder defensively from 2015 to 2016. Obviously a pretty small sample size, but at the very least I think it's fair to say he's no longer a disaster out there. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/examining-t...-probabilities/ I'm glad someone else noticed the defensive improvement last year. I think earlier in the spring I had said he had improved but since Eaton was out there most of the time it was hard to tell but the DSR or dWar was positive if I remember right. The statcast data on 1-5 star ratings was also encouraging to me although I've seen it misinterpreted . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 4, 2017 -> 06:43 PM) I'm glad someone else noticed the defensive improvement last year. I think earlier in the spring I had said he had improved but since Eaton was out there most of the time it was hard to tell but the DSR or dWar was positive if I remember right. The statcast data on 1-5 star ratings was also encouraging to me although I've seen it misinterpreted . I'll give you credit, you did make this argument during the offseason. I'll admit I was skeptical of the small sample size, but so far he's looked better out there this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Avi's already earned his modest salary for the entire season. That base hit to right late was great. But he's arguably been the MVP of the Central Division after 20 games or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 It is a short term mark to be sure, but with 27 games in the book, we are 1/6th of the way through the season, and Avi Garcia leads the AL with his .371 batting average, is 5th with his 1.017 OPS, is 8th with a .598 SLG, and is 5th with a .419 OBP. That is one hell of a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) I've been as skeptical of Avi as anyone but I'm at least starting to think this might have a chance of not being a complete fluke(avioulsy he's not going to put up a .371 average all year, etc). We all know the story at this point with the strike zone discipline being very much the same but the launch angles and what not being extremely different so I'm interested to see where this goes from here on out. It's still a small sample size and he could fall completely on his face but I'm paying attention more at this point. Edited May 5, 2017 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 5, 2017 -> 07:36 AM) I've been as skeptical of Avi as anyone but I'm at least starting to think this might have a chance of not being a complete fluke(avioulsy he's not going to put up a .371 average all year, etc). We all know the story at this point with the strike zone discipline being very much the same but the launch angles and what not being extremely different so I'm interested to see where this goes from here on out. It's still a small sample size and he could fall completely on his face but I'm paying attention more at this point. Ha Aviously I like it. I really feel like he has turned the corner. I don't think he is a top 10 hitter in the AL but I do feel he is finally living up to some of his hype. I check his stat line every game as I am rooting heavily for him. Always have been a fan of his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Really hope Aviously doesn't catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 5, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) Really hope Aviously doesn't catch on. Aviously it will, duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 5, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) Really hope Aviously doesn't catch on. Can I just use Avi for short? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Aviously is one of the best nicknames in the history of ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 If Avi makes the all star game I'm changing Aviously to my screen name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I'm sorry guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Avi probably isn't as bad as the last few seasons, but not nearly as good as this season. I would take a .280 clip from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 5, 2017 -> 10:06 AM) If Avi makes the all star game I'm changing Aviously to my screen name. This post needs to be bookmarked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 5, 2017 -> 10:06 AM) If Avi makes the all star game I'm changing Aviously to my screen name. AVI FOR ASG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Soxtalk, are you collectively ready to vote Avisail Garcia into the All-Star Game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 5, 2017 -> 01:44 PM) Soxtalk, are you collectively ready to vote Avisail Garcia into the All-Star Game? I am now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 5, 2017 -> 01:44 PM) Soxtalk, are you collectively ready to vote Avisail Garcia into the All-Star Game? Yes I am lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 5, 2017 -> 08:06 AM) If Avi makes the all star game I'm changing Aviously to my screen name. I like Aviary Garcia more because he can fly with the Feathered Serpent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) Also this needs to be turned into the Avi for All Star game thread . Recent article listing AVi as one of 4 players with a chance to make their 1st AS game. http://calltothepen.com/2017/05/07/mlb-4-p...ame-appearance/ An excerpt : So far this season, Garcia is hitting .362/.407/.571 with five home runs, 24 RBI and 18 runs. His .366 batting average ranks fifth best in MLB and second best in the AL, behind Starlin Castro. Garcia’s 1.4 bWAR currently leads all other Chicago White Sox players in 2017. Garcia also leads in an array of White Sox categories including home runs, RBI, runs, hits, triples, batting average, on-base percentage, slugging percentage, OPS and OPS-plus. Looks like voting has already started and here is the link to the ballot https://www.mlb.com/all-star/ballot Edited May 8, 2017 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Just a quick bump here now that the sample sizes are getting bigger: 1) K% is down to 19%, which is 6% lower than last year. 2) He's getting hits on 18.4% of his IF ground balls, that's insane, that's downright ichiro esque. That will regress but it speaks to his increased speed and his hustle. 3) GB/FB ratio remains much improved, at 1.55. 4) Pull percentage is also improved at 44%. 5) Which explains a lot his improved linear weights on fastballs, which has NEVER BEEN POSITIVE is now 11.4 runs above average. You gotta be bleeping me! 6) His defense over the past 100 or so games has actually improved to "passable", someone noticed that last last summer he improved and he's carried that over to this year, only -1.8 runs below average in RF, which with the way he's hitting you hardly even care about. All in all I don't see much in the numbers indicating he's improved his approach or batting eye. What I do see is a guy that has improved his swing quite a bit. He's making a lot more loud contact this year. His swing plane is better and his bat is much quicker on fastballs. He and Thames are similar stories although obviously Avi lost bulk instead of adding it. This could be a Steverson victory, and a hard work victory for Avi as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 22, 2017 -> 12:29 PM) Just a quick bump here now that the sample sizes are getting bigger: 1) K% is down to 19%, which is 6% lower than last year. 2) He's getting hits on 18.4% of his IF ground balls, that's insane, that's downright ichiro esque. That will regress but it speaks to his increased speed and his hustle. 3) GB/FB ratio remains much improved, at 1.55. 4) Pull percentage is also improved at 44%. 5) Which explains a lot his improved linear weights on fastballs, which has NEVER BEEN POSITIVE is now 11.4 runs above average. You gotta be bleeping me! 6) His defense over the past 100 or so games has actually improved to "passable", someone noticed that last last summer he improved and he's carried that over to this year, only -1.8 runs below average in RF, which with the way he's hitting you hardly even care about. All in all I don't see much in the numbers indicating he's improved his approach or batting eye. What I do see is a guy that has improved his swing quite a bit. He's making a lot more loud contact this year. His swing plane is better and his bat is much quicker on fastballs. He and Thames are similar stories although obviously Avi lost bulk instead of adding it. This could be a Steverson victory, and a hard work victory for Avi as well. Is there anything out there on exit velocity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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