I am excited about the rotation though. It's shaping up nicely with Kopech, Hansen, and Dunning on the way.

4th pick would be a disappointment after that tear down. After the top3 there usually is quite a drop off in quality plus you lose a million of pool money.

 

Don't get me wrong 4th pick isn't bad but it probably means you are looking for a 4th starter or average regular hitter rather than a star. That probably means turang and singer are off the board and those are probably the two guys that stand out.

Sox won, Phillies won, Detroit lost, Giants lost.

 

1.5 GB of Detroit for the 3rd pick

2 GB of the Phillies for the 2nd pick

2.5 GB of the Giants for the 1st pick

 

7 games left for the Sox.

4th pick... probably means you are looking for a 4th starter or average regular hitter...

I think that's a stretch but otherwise, think you're spot on. It'd be great to lock down a top 3 pick but it isn't the end of the world or means for this year to be determined unsuccessful, at all. Hell - I was hoping for the top selection just primarily a selfish reason: unrestricted speculation until draft day.

 

Edited September 25, 20178 yr by hi8is

Sox won, Phillies won, Detroit lost, Giants lost.

 

1.5 GB of Detroit for the 3rd pick

2 GB of the Phillies for the 2nd pick

2.5 GB of the Giants for the 1st pick

 

7 games left for the Sox.

This is starting to get fugly. Really think the Phillies and / or Giants are the most likely to give us a window to drop again back down.

This hasn't been formally said yet - so let me go ahead and throw it out there...

 

I hereby nominate and award this thread as "Soxtalk 2017 Thread of the Year".

This hasn't been formally said yet - so let me go ahead and throw it out there...

 

I hereby nominate and award this thread as "Soxtalk 2017 Thread of the Year".

 

I feel so honored

I think that's a stretch but otherwise, think you're spot on. It'd be great to lock down a top 3 pick but it isn't the end of the world or means for this year to be determined unsuccessful, at all. Hell - I was hoping for the top selection just primarily a selfish reason: unrestricted speculation until draft day.

 

 

Definitely is not the end of the world and the sox system already is in a great place but it would have been nice to "reward" yourself with another top pick.

 

There are stars after the 3 pick and even a number 1 can bust but the drop off after 3 is very real.

 

3,4 picks(career war) from 05-14 (later ones have not completely arrived yet.

 

2005 jeff clement(-0.9), ryan zimmerman (36.4)

2006 longoria (49.6) brad Lincoln (0.1)

2007 josh vitters (-1,5) daniel moskos (.2)

2008 hosmer (9.8) matusz (4.7)

2009 Donovan tate (0) tony sanchez (0)

2010 Manny machado (26,5) Christian colon (.7)

2011 trevor bauer (8.6) dylan bundy (3.6)

2012 mike zunino (5.7) kevin gausman (9.3)

2013 jon gray (7.4) kohl steward (0)

2014 rodon (5.6) schwarber (3.1)

 

Average career war to date (slightly unfair towards the younger guys but you get the picture)

 

3 pick 11

4 pick 5.8

 

Also more total busts (under plus 2 career) in the lower pick (30% vs 50%).

 

Reading those stats I would be happy with an average regular at 4...

 

I mean the scouting reports of those 4 to 10 picks always read like

"Joe mauer with power" but more often it is "adam dunn without the walks".the scouts were not wrong but they describe the absolute ceiling.

 

I don't want to be the hater and the sox dont NEED that pick but getting another star could be the difference between becoming a good team and becoming a championship team.

 

It would be nice to stay at 4 though but falling to 5 wouldn't be that bad as 5 statistically is not that much worse. The worst thing was fallling out of the top3, the biggest drop is at the top, 1 to 4 is a much bigger drop in quality than 4 to 8 or so.

4th pick would be a disappointment after that tear down. After the top3 there usually is quite a drop off in quality plus you lose a million of pool money.

 

Don't get me wrong 4th pick isn't bad but it probably means you are looking for a 4th starter or average regular hitter rather than a star. That probably means turang and singer are off the board and those are probably the two guys that stand out.

 

My only regret really, is why did they release Holland? That might end up costing us a slot or two in the draft. I just don't see the reason for it.

 

Otherwise, many of these unexpected wins come from the pleasant surprises of our young guns - so it's hard to be unhappy about it. We want to see the progress from guys like Giolito, Moncada, Delmonico, Lopez, etc.

 

Also keep in mind - aren't they saying this draft is a little deeper at the very top than normal? Possibly 5 deep. Of course, if the Sox keep this up they could even slide down to #6 still.

My only regret really, is why did they release Holland? That might end up costing us a slot or two in the draft. I just don't see the reason for it.

 

Otherwise, many of these unexpected wins come from the pleasant surprises of our young guns - so it's hard to be unhappy about it. We want to see the progress from guys like Giolito, Moncada, Delmonico, Lopez, etc.

 

Also keep in mind - aren't they saying this draft is a little deeper at the very top than normal? Possibly 5 deep. Of course, if the Sox keep this up they could even slide down to #6 still.

 

I'm pleased to see some of our younger players coming around, but it would be a shame to not finish this tank off properly the final week.

I'm pleased to see some of our younger players coming around, but it would be a shame to not finish this tank off properly the final week.

 

I am going to guess that we don't see as much of Abreu and Avi this week, especially Jose. He hit his 30/100 marks, and there isn't much else for him. Maybe they give Avi a run at 20 homers, but there isn't much else for him to play for either.

Let's just lose tonight and be 3 clear of the Reds with 6 left, instead of 2.

 

The Angels getting to Chicago in the wee hours and being close to elimination doesn't encourage me however.

I'll just be relieved when the season draws to a close.

 

I don't care much for this tension.

I'll just be relieved when the season draws to a close.

 

I don't care much for this tension.

 

Ha. We're really sweating over some first world problems here aren't we?

 

All for fun.

The Sox are dropping in draft position because players like Moncada, Giolito, and Lopez are playing well. That's not a bad development. I can find players I want the Sox to draft littering the top 10 picks, they will be just fine wherever they draft. Only thing that sucks about this drop is they are losing pool money.

I feel so honored

 

Psshhhhh, I start this thread for about 4 years in a row, then this year someone gets the jump on me and wins the coveted title.

 

SUCH DISRESPECT!

Psshhhhh, I start this thread for about 4 years in a row, then this year someone gets the jump on me and wins the coveted title.

 

SUCH DISRESPECT!

 

And I'm pretty sure I'm the guy who provides the link to the reverse standings in those said threads haha

Edited September 25, 20178 yr by soxfan2014

Psshhhhh, I start this thread for about 4 years in a row, then this year someone gets the jump on me and wins the coveted title.

 

SUCH DISRESPECT!

 

And I am the originator since '09.

 

Since when is anything from me coveted?

this is turning into a very bad end of the season..

 

i say that every year but this time its different

Damn. I step away for the evening with the lil woman thinking Shields would help the tank and instead he pitches well. I started Sunday's and Monday's game threads and we see how that worked out. Anyone else want to give a go for Tuesday's game? I'm just not the luck were looking for right now. WTF!

Sad that even the Tigers get it. Ugh.

Sox 3-3

Reds 2-4

 

Sox pick 4th

 

That'll happen, right?

This sucks

 

Need about 9 guys to go on the DL asap

Edited September 26, 20178 yr by Jenksy Cat

Monday:

Won- Giants, White Sox, Mets, Braves

Lost- Phillies, Mets, Braves, Padres, A's

 

6 days left

 

Team (Games left) - Sox Magic Number to have higher pick:

 

1. Phillies (5) - 9, Sox Elim # - 3

2. Giants (5) - 8, Sox Elim # - 4

3. Tigers (6) - 8, Sox Elim # - 5

4. White Sox (6)

5. Reds (6) - 5 (+2.0 GA)

6. Mets (5) - 3

7. Padres (5) - 1

8. Braves (6)

9. Pirates (6)

10. A's (6)

Edited September 26, 20178 yr by flavum