September 26, 20178 yr Chicago White SoxVerified account @whitesox 11m11 minutes ago Giolito and Shields are done pitching for the season.
September 27, 20178 yr 5 days left Team (Games left) - Sox Magic Number to have higher pick: 1. Giants (4) - 7, Sox Elim # - 3 2. Tigers (5) - 7, Sox Elim # - 4 3. Phillies (4) - 7, Sox Elim # - 3 4. White Sox (5) 5. Reds (5) - 4 (+2.0 GA)* 6. Mets (4) - 1 7. Padres (4) 8. Braves (5) 9. A's (5) 10. Pirates (5) * Reds need to be two games worse than the Sox in the last 5 games to have a higher pick
September 27, 20178 yr For anyone else who's still confused by flavum's Elimination Number shindig... 2.5 GB of the Giants for the 1st 2 GB of Detroit for the 2nd pick 2 GB of the Phillies for the 3rd pick
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (hi8is @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 12:32 AM) For anyone else who's still confused by flavum's Elimination Number shindig... 2.5 GB of the Giants for the 1st 2 GB of Detroit for the 2nd pick 2 GB of the Phillies for the 3rd pick GET OFF MY SYSTEM, BRO. Sox lose, Reds lose, Phillies win, Giants win, Tigers lose (They are 2-18 in September against non-Sox opponents. I f***ing hate them) Reds are 1.5 GB of us with the 5th pick Sox pick 4th 2 GB of Detroit for the 3rd pick 2 GB of the Phillies for the 2nd pick 2.5 GB of the Giants for the 1st pick 5 games left for the Sox.
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (hi8is @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 12:32 AM) For anyone else who's still confused by flavum's Elimination Number shindig... 2.5 GB of the Giants for the 1st 2 GB of Detroit for the 2nd pick 2 GB of the Phillies for the 3rd pick Thank you...check this thread daily and still cannot understand the other ranking
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Sep 26, 2017 -> 11:53 PM) GET OFF MY SYSTEM, BRO. After midnight, your glass slipper falls off
September 27, 20178 yr Huge game tomorrow - it's a must lose. Detroit have Zimmerman going Phillies have Roark Giants have Longhaired Loserface If we could get within 1GB going into the Cleveland series, my hopes will be renewed.
September 27, 20178 yr sox really messed this up. There's a big difference between picking 1 or 2 and picking 4
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 06:19 AM) sox really messed this up. There's a big difference between picking 1 or 2 and picking 4 They underestimated the competition.
September 27, 20178 yr Yea I'm not sure why they had Shields give up on the Stinkball. It was working beautifully.
September 27, 20178 yr Author So we have Lopez (could have a clunker but I hope not) and Covey (yuck) the next 2 days and then Fulmer and Volstad on Saturday and Sunday (both could get ugly). Who is pitching on Friday, Holmberg? Edited September 27, 20178 yr by soxfan2014
September 27, 20178 yr If this is the real Giolito, that trumps any tanking we could do.....same with Fulmer.
September 27, 20178 yr Author QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 08:04 AM) Yea I'm not sure why they had Shields give up on the Stinkball. It was working beautifully. If they can spin Shields into something decent in say June (maybe Sox eat most of the remaining deal) due to him reinventing himself, that would be incredible. Who knows maybe we will see Shields in a package deal with another Swarzak-like signing to a team looking to improve the back-end of the rotation and bullpen. Edited September 27, 20178 yr by soxfan2014
September 27, 20178 yr Sox didn't really mess this up. Their young players are good and we are better than those other teams currently ahead of us in the draft pick race. It is nice to see our young players playing well heading into next season.
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 08:41 AM) Sox didn't really mess this up. Their young players are good and we are better than those other teams currently ahead of us in the draft pick race. It is nice to see our young players playing well heading into next season. Agreed. I can't be mad about us falling out of the top three when it is soley because of guys like Moncada, Giolito, Lopez, Anderson, Delmonico, and Garcia. I wish we had a top 3 pick but if we are 4th because of huge strides and promising strides from those players than it is hard to be upset about where we end up..
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 08:41 AM) Sox didn't really mess this up. Their young players are good and we are better than those other teams currently ahead of us in the draft pick race. It is nice to see our young players playing well heading into next season. For sure. I think we can all agree though that massive bullpen implosions every night would have been preferable. It is what it is- go Sox youngins. This team has been exciting and I can't wait for the most boring offseason in 17 years.
September 27, 20178 yr Basically the Sox are picking 4th unless they go 0-5 and one of the top 3 win 2.
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 09:41 AM) Agreed. I can't be mad about us falling out of the top three when it is soley because of guys like Moncada, Giolito, Lopez, Anderson, Delmonico, and Garcia. I wish we had a top 3 pick but if we are 4th because of huge strides and promising strides from those players than it is hard to be upset about where we end up.. I have said it a million times and will say it until all get aboard the train... These guys being successful is much more important the difference between the #3 and #5 picks in this draft. If we had gone into next season with Moncada and Giolito both having repeats of their call ups last year, if Anderson had continued his April-July through the rest of the season, if Yolmer had hit like Carlos Sanchez, and Avi hit like pre-17 Avi, etc... our rebuild would have been in huge trouble, and put the entire organizations future into doubt. It isn't JUST draft position. The most important thing is that these kids are turning into big leaguers once they get to Chicago.
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 08:27 AM) I have said it a million times and will say it until all get aboard the train... These guys being successful is much more important the difference between the #3 and #5 picks in this draft. If we had gone into next season with Moncada and Giolito both having repeats of their call ups last year, if Anderson had continued his April-July through the rest of the season, if Yolmer had hit like Carlos Sanchez, and Avi hit like pre-17 Avi, etc... our rebuild would have been in huge trouble, and put the entire organizations future into doubt. It isn't JUST draft position. The most important thing is that these kids are turning into big leaguers once they get to Chicago. Cosigned x 1000.
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) I have said it a million times and will say it until all get aboard the train... These guys being successful is much more important the difference between the #3 and #5 picks in this draft. If we had gone into next season with Moncada and Giolito both having repeats of their call ups last year, if Anderson had continued his April-July through the rest of the season, if Yolmer had hit like Carlos Sanchez, and Avi hit like pre-17 Avi, etc... our rebuild would have been in huge trouble, and put the entire organizations future into doubt. It isn't JUST draft position. The most important thing is that these kids are turning into big leaguers once they get to Chicago. Agreed, but we also won quite a few games with s*** pitchers that have no future in the org. Those are the ones that sting. Needed those to be 8-7 losses with the young guys mashing & the s***ty pitcher getting lit up.
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 11:04 AM) Agreed, but we also won quite a few games with s*** pitchers that have no future in the org. Those are the ones that sting. Needed those to be 8-7 losses with the young guys mashing & the s***ty pitcher getting lit up. Baseball doesn't work that way. That's why you play the games.
September 27, 20178 yr QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) Basically the Sox are picking 4th unless they go 0-5 and one of the top 3 win 2. The Phillies are definitely the best chance. Let's just lose out and see if the Phillies beat the Mets 2 of 3. Giants could beat the Padres 2 of 3 too. Lose out and "The Freeze" this thing to the 2nd pick. Tigers? They're losing 100. Edited September 27, 20178 yr by flavum
September 27, 20178 yr any advantage to us if it is a three way tie for second (since we are teasing out all scenarios)?
September 27, 20178 yr It would help if we'd sit Abreu and Garcia; I'm not sure why they are playing every day, regardless of the need to tank. Detroit is showing teams how tanking is properly done. They aren't even trying.
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