Picking 5th will guarantee picks 1-4 are future stars. Hate this win

Sox and Reds have 17 combined games. 6 have to be Sox losses or Reds wins for the Sox to get the 4th pick. That better happen.

Sox and Reds have 17 combined games. 6 have to be Sox losses or Reds wins for the Sox to get the 4th pick. That better happen.

Don't give up hope man... 1, 2, 3, and 4 are all still in sight. ??

Don't give up hope man... 1, 2, 3, and 4 are all still in sight. ??

 

 

It's over man. The Sox can't seem to do anything right these days. This win sucked because Yoan had the bomb but our youth of the future wasn't the big part of it. If they don't get at least a top two pick this season is a failure. No reason to be winning so many useless games when other teams are tanking hard.

It's over man. The Sox can't seem to do anything right these days. This win sucked because Yoan had the bomb but our youth of the future wasn't the big part of it. If they don't get at least a top two pick this season is a failure. No reason to be winning so many useless games when other teams are tanking hard.

Sorry dude - we just don't see eye to eye on many regards.

Sorry dude - we just don't see eye to eye on many regards.

 

This season was about obtaining a top 3 pick, if we get fourth or 5th it will be a letdown. I don't mind wins that occur because our future plays great, but these wins where guys who wont be here make the difference suck. Just like the Bears needed to be in top position to grab a qb last year, and the Bulls need a top 3 pick to grab one of the three studs coming into the NBA next year.

It's over man. The Sox can't seem to do anything right these days. This win sucked because Yoan had the bomb but our youth of the future wasn't the big part of it. If they don't get at least a top two pick this season is a failure. No reason to be winning so many useless games when other teams are tanking hard.

 

I agree it's over in regards to top 3, but 4th isn't a failure. Starting the season 15-12 got them Rutherford and a couple other guys. And then they actually did go out and play a month at 4-23. That stretch is still netting a very high pick.

This season was about obtaining a top 3 pick, if we get fourth or 5th it will be a letdown. I don't mind wins that occur because our future plays great, but these wins where guys who wont be here make the difference suck. Just like the Bears needed to be in top position to grab a qb last year, and the Bulls need a top 3 pick to grab one of the three studs coming into the NBA next year.

This isn't the NBA, and there's no consensus top-3 guy that is an absolute must-draft. Picking anywhere in the top 5 is absolutely fine

Phillies lost, Detroit lost, Giants lost....Sox....won.

 

0.5 GB of Detroit for the 3rd pick

2 GB of the Phillies for the 2nd pick

2.5 GB of the Giants for the 1st pick

 

9 games left for the Sox.

Phillies lost, Detroit lost, Giants lost....Sox....won.

 

0.5 GB of Detroit for the 3rd pick

2 GB of the Phillies for the 2nd pick

2.5 GB of the Giants for the 1st pick

 

9 games left for the Sox.

Buckle up folks - it's gonna be a fun ride.

This season was about obtaining a top 3 pick, if we get fourth or 5th it will be a letdown. I don't mind wins that occur because our future plays great, but these wins where guys who wont be here make the difference suck. Just like the Bears needed to be in top position to grab a qb last year, and the Bulls need a top 3 pick to grab one of the three studs coming into the NBA next year.

We just don't see eye to eye and rather than spending time debating a dead horse, I'll instead just say ukalukadoodoo and leave it at that.

 

ukalukadoodoo.

Friday:

Won- White Sox, Mets, Braves, A's

Lost- Giants, Phillies, Tigers, Reds, Padres, Pirates

 

9 days left

 

Team (Games left) - Sox Magic Number to have higher pick:

 

1. Giants(8) - 11 (-2.5 GB)

2. Phillies(8) - 11 (-2.5 GB)

3. Tigers(8) - 9 (+0.5 GA)*

4. White Sox(9)

5. Reds(8) - 6 (+3.5 GA)**

6. Mets(9) - 5

7. Padres(8) - 3

8. Pirates(8) - 2

9. Braves(10) - 3

10. A's(9) - 2

 

*Tigers have to be a half game worse with the remaining schedule to have a higher pick than the Sox

**Reds have to be 3.5 games worse with the remaining schedule to have a higher pick than the Sox

Edited September 23, 20178 yr by flavum

This season was about obtaining a top 3 pick, if we get fourth or 5th it will be a letdown. I don't mind wins that occur because our future plays great, but these wins where guys who wont be here make the difference suck. Just like the Bears needed to be in top position to grab a qb last year, and the Bulls need a top 3 pick to grab one of the three studs coming into the NBA next year.

 

No it wasn't. It was about putting themselves into a position to accumulate talent and have it progress as it grows. Winning games because of that talent is not a bad thing. Getting big stretches from Moncada, Anderson, etc is more important than the difference between the 3rd and 5th pick.

That is patently untrue. It was about player acquisition and development. Them being bad was a foregone conclusion and a Top 3 pick was desired, but saying that is what 2017 was about is just not correct.

 

Glad to see someone else beat me to this.

Glad to see someone else beat me to this.

 

 

Let me clarify, I was speaking in terms of the fans. For the fans to go through this miserable season it was about a top three pick. You all know that I am right no matter how much you deny it. In fact, the whole point of this thread is to track that pick, and going through the pages the evidence is clear that everyone wants a top 2 pick. People even wanted to lose to the Cubs to get a better pick, which is something I'd never cheer for, F them. I wasn't on board for the rebuild at first but everyone wanted a top 2 pick for sure out of this draft. Everyone in fact wanted Beer with number 1 I believe. The organization wants development but we didn't, that's the letdown I'm talking about. Because we had to suffer through this season, and to get the 5th pick is a letdown. As far as the guy who says we don't see eye to eye, I could give a crap to to be honest.

Edited September 23, 20178 yr by SonofaRoache

Let me clarify, I was speaking in terms of the fans. For the fans to go through this miserable season it was about a top three pick. You all know that I am right no matter how much you deny it. In fact, the whole point of this thread is to track that pick, and going through the pages the evidence is clear that everyone wants a top 2 pick. People even wanted to lose to the Cubs to get a better pick, which is something I'd never cheer for, F them. I wasn't on board for the rebuild at first but everyone wanted a top 2 pick for sure out of this draft. Everyone in fact wanted Beer with number 1 I believe. The organization wants development but we didn't, that's the letdown I'm talking about. Because we had to suffer through this season, and to get the 5th pick is a letdown. As far as the guy who says we don't see eye to eye, I could give a crap to to be honest.

 

Wanting a top pick and understanding that the success of our young players is more vital isn't mutually exclusive. If we had gotten failures out of Anderson, Moncada, Fulmer, Giolito, Lopez etc, this rebuild is way more screwed than the difference between the 3rd and 5th picks. To me that seems obvious.

Let me clarify, I was speaking in terms of the fans. For the fans to go through this miserable season it was about a top three pick. You all know that I am right no matter how much you deny it. In fact, the whole point of this thread is to track that pick, and going through the pages the evidence is clear that everyone wants a top 2 pick. People even wanted to lose to the Cubs to get a better pick, which is something I'd never cheer for, F them. I wasn't on board for the rebuild at first but everyone wanted a top 2 pick for sure out of this draft. Everyone in fact wanted Beer with number 1 I believe. The organization wants development but we didn't, that's the letdown I'm talking about. Because we had to suffer through this season, and to get the 5th pick is a letdown. As far as the guy who says we don't see eye to eye, I could give a crap to to be honest.

I would disagree. That was part of the point of the season. The other part and the part I enjoyed more was watching the young players such as Moncada, Lopez, Giolito and Delmonico develop and play well.

Wanting a top pick and understanding that the success of our young players is more vital isn't mutually exclusive. If we had gotten failures out of Anderson, Moncada, Fulmer, Giolito, Lopez etc, this rebuild is way more screwed than the difference between the 3rd and 5th picks. To me that seems obvious.

 

 

I agree with this and stated as much. That's why I said I was upset with wins where guys who aren't a part of our future suck. This is our true tank year and having a top pick plus better pool money would be nice. It's still attainable though.

I would disagree. That was part of the point of the season. The other part and the part I enjoyed more was watching the young players such as Moncada, Lopez, Giolito and Delmonico develop and play well.

 

 

I don't disagree with you on loving progress of our players who are our future. The point of this thread was in fact to track our pick. Each day standings are posted and scenarios given of how we can beat out Detroit, Philly, and SF for the number one pick. This thread is also full of posts of several ways posters wanted to lose so our guys played well and still lost. It's okay to want the number one pick and feel a little bad if we get 5. Doesn't make anyone less of a man or a fan.

Wanting a top pick and understanding that the success of our young players is more vital isn't mutually exclusive. If we had gotten failures out of Anderson, Moncada, Fulmer, Giolito, Lopez etc, this rebuild is way more screwed than the difference between the 3rd and 5th picks. To me that seems obvious.

 

The sooner people get this, the better.

Let me clarify, I was speaking in terms of the fans. For the fans to go through this miserable season it was about a top three pick. You all know that I am right no matter how much you deny it. In fact, the whole point of this thread is to track that pick, and going through the pages the evidence is clear that everyone wants a top 2 pick. People even wanted to lose to the Cubs to get a better pick, which is something I'd never cheer for, F them. I wasn't on board for the rebuild at first but everyone wanted a top 2 pick for sure out of this draft. Everyone in fact wanted Beer with number 1 I believe. The organization wants development but we didn't, that's the letdown I'm talking about. Because we had to suffer through this season, and to get the 5th pick is a letdown. As far as the guy who says we don't see eye to eye, I could give a crap to to be honest.

ukalukadoodoo

Tigers up 3-2 in the 7th. Hope the tiger pen holds up.

 

Phillies up 2-0 in the fifth.

So much for the tiger's pen holding up. Pricks!

I don't disagree with you on loving progress of our players who are our future. The point of this thread was in fact to track our pick. Each day standings are posted and scenarios given of how we can beat out Detroit, Philly, and SF for the number one pick. This thread is also full of posts of several ways posters wanted to lose so our guys played well and still lost. It's okay to want the number one pick and feel a little bad if we get 5. Doesn't make anyone less of a man or a fan.

I agree. I was just responding to the comment that the only point of the season was to follow the games for the pick. I agree it's one of the reasons just not the only one.

Giants win