http://www.weei.com/blogs/rob-bradford/tod...-target-red-sox

Could see them targeting Kahnle also.

He'd be the cheapest upgrade available to them, and if the Royals don't sell, possibly the best.

Gimme Darwinzon Hernandez cause it's a fun name

I don't think the scout at the game means much. There really doesn't seem to be a guy on Boston's roster that would be a good match for a trade. The White Sox would most likely get a minor leaguer.

I don't think the scout at the game means much. There really doesn't seem to be a guy on Boston's roster that would be a good match for a trade. The White Sox would most likely get a minor leaguer.

 

Just do Frazier for Swihart and move on

Just do Frazier for Swihart and move on

 

 

Gross. Swihart is toast. OPSing .600 in AAA.

I think we should keep Frazier

Just do Frazier for Swihart and move on

 

Swihart is worthless at this point

I think we should keep Frazier

Might as well dump him and play Davidson at third every day, El Rockin. If Boston is dumb enough to want Dunn, I mean Frazier, shouldn't we let him walk? He's not good.

Swihart is worthless at this point

 

Oh I know but Sox have tried to get him for years. I just want to see people blame KW

Oh I know but Sox have tried to get him for years. I just want to see people blame KW

Oh I know but Sox have tried to get him for years. I just want to see people blame KW

I honestly think all joking aside Swihart is a reasonable piece to come back for Frazier two of these five: Swihart, Beeks, Ball, Mars & Lin.

I honestly think all joking aside Swihart is a reasonable piece to come back for Frazier two of these five: Swihart, Beeks, Ball, Mars & Lin.

 

Swihart has no trade value at this point, he cannot stay healthy and his production has been terrible. He's 25 years old and not getting any younger as well.

 

I'd much rather look for younger players that still have upside.

Swihart has no trade value at this point, he cannot stay healthy and his production has been terrible. He's 25 years old and not getting any younger as well.

 

I'd much rather look for younger players that still have upside.

 

While I agree that we should target younger players, the price on Frazier likely won't be high. Not a lot of teams need a 3B and there are alternative options (Lowrie, Neil Walker could move back to 3B, Kendrick, Nunez, Cozart, Solarte, Freese). It would also be pointless to keep him.

Edited June 28, 20178 yr by soxfan2014

While I agree that we should target younger players, the price on Frazier likely won't be high. Not a lot of teams need a 3B and there are alternative options (Lowrie, Neil Walker could move back to 3B, Kendrick, Nunez, Cozart, Solarte, Freese). It would also be pointless to keep him.

It is basically a salary dump.

Gross. Swihart is toast. OPSing .600 in AAA.

 

I would take a chance on him turning it around. Throw in Owens too, another guy that has fallen by the way side. Two guys that could really benefit from a change of scenery and that could turn it around and turn into valuable players. If not, you get some salary relief and get to work Davidson at 3B everyday.

 

Frazier is not going to bring much at this point, might as well try some guys who have made it to the majors to see if you can fix them rather than rolling the dice on lottery ticket guys.

I would take a chance on him turning it around. Throw in Owens too, another guy that has fallen by the way side. Two guys that could really benefit from a change of scenery and that could turn it around and turn into valuable players. If not, you get some salary relief and get to work Davidson at 3B everyday.

 

Frazier is not going to bring much at this point, might as well try some guys who have made it to the majors to see if you can fix them rather than rolling the dice on lottery ticket guys.

 

I'd prefer younger players with upside, but I'd be fine with an Owens / Swihart package. Swihart alone would be pretty awful at this point, but better than nothing, I suppose.

I'd prefer younger players with upside, but I'd be fine with an Owens / Swihart package. Swihart alone would be pretty awful at this point, but better than nothing, I suppose.

 

I think former top prospect reclamation project isn't the worst player type to pursue with a guy like Frazier on .5 a year.

I'd trade for Frazier if I was a contender needing a 3B. I calculated his expected BABIP a couple of weeks ago and it was over .300 iirc, compared to his current .223. His walks are by far at a career-high, strikeouts close to a career-low and power at his career norms. Just needs a few hits to start dropping in and his triple slash will start to look pretty.

I'd trade for Frazier if I was a contender needing a 3B. I calculated his expected BABIP a couple of weeks ago and it was over .300 iirc, compared to his current .223. His walks are by far at a career-high, strikeouts close to a career-low and power at his career norms. Just needs a few hits to start dropping in and his triple slash will start to look pretty.

 

I remember the first few weeks of the season, he hit the ball really hard but the ball always found a fielder whether it was right at someone or someone made a nice play on him. If he had 5 more hits right now, his average would be .235 instead of .214.

Edited June 28, 20178 yr by soxfan2014

I think former top prospect reclamation project isn't the worst player type to pursue with a guy like Frazier on .5 a year.

 

Owens and Swihart have little to no value right now though. While the price for Frazier may not be high, I would much rather look for younger players that have some upside instead of 24-25 washed up prospects.

 

Owens is walking 7.8 batters per 9 IP in the minors this season, YIKES! He turns 25 in July.

 

Swihart is 25 and has a .607 OPS in the minors this season. Tons of injury problems in the past.

 

Give me 18-21 year olds with upside any day over those guys

Owens and Swihart have little to no value right now though. While the price for Frazier may not be high, I would much rather look for younger players that have some upside instead of 24-25 washed up prospects.

 

Owens is walking 7.8 batters per 9 IP in the minors this season, YIKES! He turns 25 in July.

 

Swihart is 25 and has a .607 OPS in the minors this season. Tons of injury problems in the past.

 

Give me 18-21 year olds with upside any day over those guys

 

It's possible the best they can do is Swihart and Owens though. Sure we'd all rather have the much younger prospects but that may not be up to the White Sox. And you're talking about these guys like they are 28/29 years old. Owens gives you a 24-year old you can try to stick in the rotation after they move guys and call guys up/go to 6-man rotation or see if he can turn into a reliable lefty reliever long-term.

Edited June 28, 20178 yr by soxfan2014

It's possible the best they can do is Swihart and Owens though. Owens gives you a 24-year old you can try to stick in the rotation after they move guys and call guys up/go to 6-man rotation or see if he can turn into a reliable lefty reliever long-term.

 

Owens is 25 in July and just got demoted to AA

 

https://www.overthemonster.com/2017/6/26/15...-red-sox-minors

 

His control is awful.

 

I certainly want to move Frazier, but we can get more interesting prospects than Swihart and Owens. Why help the Red Sox and get garbage back? Low level guys with some upside would be a much better move.

It's possible the best they can do is Swihart and Owens though. Sure we'd all rather have the much younger prospects but that may not be up to the White Sox. And you're talking about these guys like they are 28/29 years old. Owens gives you a 24-year old you can try to stick in the rotation after they move guys and call guys up/go to 6-man rotation or see if he can turn into a reliable lefty reliever long-term.

 

Owens in more interesting to me than Swihart. If that combo is the best you can do, you take it. But I have a feeling Rick will be trying for better.