Jerry should have farmed Hahn out to the Bulls.

Wow to get Rutherford for a rental that's not that great, closer we had no use for, and a middle reliever having a career year? Total steal. Nice work Hahn.

 

Clarkin seems like a decent get too.

Edited July 19, 20178 yr by soxforlife05

Finishing as a bottom 6 team three times isn't doing a great job?

Right? They did a great job considering they had Rizzo on the roster for much of that.

Finishing as a bottom 6 team three times isn't doing a great job?

 

Yes seeing as the White Sox have picked 3 and 8 while trying to win in the past three years

Andujar, Florial, and one of their better higher level arms, like Adams.

I think that is a bit much, but I would take the latter two and call it fair.

Give me Andújar and this deal is perfect.

 

Need more than that, especially for taking on the contract.

Actually, no. You do not. You do not like to win games when you tank.

35th, you can't resist commenting bluntly to anybody who suggests they want to win. You are like the old me in posting. Your position on tanking is well known but you post on and on about it.

 

I stand firmly by the position that losing on purpose is stupid. You want to win even if you're not actively trying to put good players on your MLB roster. The losing is a byproduct of the restocking of the system. You want fans to come out and see wins and you want your players to play well in tough situations whenever they present themselves.

If you want to start an "I always want to win" club, I'll join, but I don't think we'll have many members.

 

BTW: I see Rutherford isn't much of a long ball guy despite being 6-foot-3. Does he project to at some point be a power guy? I see he hits doubles and must be pretty fast as he steals some bases. But he is 6-3 which would make you think he'd be a power guy. I do like the fact Rutherford and Eloy are tall. Like to see those type players rather than the grinder sized guys. I realize he's just out of high school and not trying to blast him.

Edited July 19, 20178 yr by greg775

Clippard's not bad. Now arbitrage him in the next 2 weeks.

I think that is a bit much, but I would take the latter two and call it fair.

 

If I'm picking two of the three, Andujar and Adams.

Clippard is a FA after the season, really doesn't matter.

Need more than that, especially for taking on the contract.

 

The remaining like 2 mill? Lol

Finishing as a bottom 6 team three times isn't doing a great job?

 

Or you can compare to the Astros who picked 1, 1, 1, and 2 in 4 consecutive years.

Wow to get Rutherford for a rental that's not that great, closer we had no use for, and a middle reliever having a career year? Total steal. Nice work Hahn

Totally get this point of view.

 

But looking at it like giving away 3 above average MLB regulars for a kid in A ball seems scary. Need to see a little deadline desperation piece added.

Clippard is a FA after the season, really doesn't matter.

 

Agreed. We're taking him back so we have an arm and don't have to send a little cash to Yanks for D-Rob/Frazier. Same thing as if we sent cash wish them, didn't get Clippard back and Yanks dfa'd him.

Edited July 19, 20178 yr by soxfan2014

If we are taking some of their trash I'd like one more prospect back in the deal

I trust in WSD.

Edited July 19, 20178 yr by iamshack

Yes seeing as the White Sox have picked 3 and 8 while trying to win in the past three years

Well they did a great job comparing it to the Sox. Didn't they have the 10th and 11st the last two years, while trying to suck?

Edited July 19, 20178 yr by soxfan49

Levine says Sox will get 4 players in this deal.. we seem to know 3 of them

Edited July 19, 20178 yr by EvilJester99

Didn't they have the 10th and 11st the last two years, while trying to suck?

 

No? They were trying to compete.

Levine says sox are getting 4 players back.

 

Rutherford, Clarkin, Clippard, and????

Or you can compare to the Astros who picked 1, 1, 1, and 2 in 4 consecutive years.

Are you suggesting the Astros haven't benefited from tanking?

Rutherford, Clarkin, Clippard...

Man, I agree with the first part.

 

I would have never traded both Robertson and Kahnle for Rutherford.

 

Especially if we are taking back Clippard.

 

You miss the A's deal? They killed the market for relief pitching. Miracle we got Rutherford for those two.

Levine says sox are getting 4 players back.

 

Rutherford, Clarkin, Clippard, and????

Judge

4 players back to Sox, per Levine.

 

Rutherford, Clarkin, Clippard AND ?

Would last piece be someone on 40-man unless they dfa someone?