August 9, 20178 yr QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 12:35 PM) also A.J Puckett's WS debut Fulmer should be converted to being a reliever sooner rather than later. Barring a massive turnaround I do not see the future rotation having room for him. He should focus on becoming a quality reliever, which is still a very valuable player.
August 9, 20178 yr QUOTE (steveno89 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) Fulmer should be converted to being a reliever sooner rather than later. Barring a massive turnaround I do not see the future rotation having room for him. He should focus on becoming a quality reliever, which is still a very valuable player. I still think they give him until Mid-2018 or maybe all 2018 to work out as a starter. Not saying I fully agree but I can't see them basically giving him up yet especially with how they rushed him.
August 9, 20178 yr QUOTE (steveno89 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) Fulmer should be converted to being a reliever sooner rather than later. Barring a massive turnaround I do not see the future rotation having room for him. He should focus on becoming a quality reliever, which is still a very valuable player. There is no reason as of yet to convert him. This is his first full season as a minor league starting pitcher. Realistically he shouldn't even be at AAA yet. He can be made a reliever at any time. He can't be made a starter at any time. Let him start, give him his reps, let him work on mechanics, release point, and mental approach.
August 9, 20178 yr I've always been of the mindset that Fulmer was just rushed through the system. I believe they were doing that when they thought they had a window to compete, and wanted to be apart of it. None the less, I think that he should keep getting starts at the Triple-A level. Worst case scenario to me, is that he is a solid reliever for the White Sox.
August 9, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) There is no reason as of yet to convert him. This is his first full season as a minor league starting pitcher. Realistically he shouldn't even be at AAA yet. He can be made a reliever at any time. He can't be made a starter at any time. Let him start, give him his reps, let him work on mechanics, release point, and mental approach. This. No reason to give up yet.
August 9, 20178 yr I don't see how pitching out of the pen is going to help Fulmer's problems. It would be one thing if he was having control problems but still missing bats, but that's just not the case. His K/BB ratio is comically bad and wasn't much better when he was 22 in AA last year. Bad control and inability to miss bats just isn't a good combo. Maybe I'm biased because I didn't like the pick form day 1, but I have very little hope for Fulmer ever being a quality pitcher in any role. Hopefully he can prove me wrong though.
August 9, 20178 yr QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 06:20 PM) I don't see how pitching out of the pen is going to help Fulmer's problems. It would be one thing if he was having control problems but still missing bats, but that's just not the case. His K/BB ratio is comically bad and wasn't much better when he was 22 in AA last year. Bad control and inability to miss bats just isn't a good combo. Maybe I'm biased because I didn't like the pick form day 1, but I have very little hope for Fulmer ever being a quality pitcher in any role. Hopefully he can prove me wrong though. They f***ed up the pick the minute they let any "he can help us this year" thinking enter the equation. Thankfully that thinking has gone out the window.
August 9, 20178 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 06:35 PM) Yikes Cease He didn't get injured right? They just pulled him to ineffectiveness?
August 9, 20178 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 12:40 AM) He didn't get injured right? They just pulled him to ineffectiveness? Seems like ineffectiveness
August 10, 20178 yr Eloy good again. Zavala continues to be interesting. Hope to see Burger and Rutherford heat up again Edited August 10, 20178 yr by fathom
August 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 12:20 AM) I don't see how pitching out of the pen is going to help Fulmer's problems. It would be one thing if he was having control problems but still missing bats, but that's just not the case. His K/BB ratio is comically bad and wasn't much better when he was 22 in AA last year. Bad control and inability to miss bats just isn't a good combo. Maybe I'm biased because I didn't like the pick form day 1, but I have very little hope for Fulmer ever being a quality pitcher in any role. Hopefully he can prove me wrong though. I'm with you here, if he wasn't a high pick, he would be an afterthought in the organization.
August 10, 20178 yr Anthony Coronado in DSL 3-4 with a double and a homer. 18 doubles and 4 home runs on the year. Pretty nice season so far for him.
August 10, 20178 yr That Charlotte lineup would have been a fun one in 2014. Asche, Liriano, Gillaspie, and Peterson.
August 10, 20178 yr White Sox have 3 of the top 13 minor league pitchers ranked by whiff %. Cease leads the Sox with the 5th best in the entire minors, Hansen is 11th, and Kopech is 13th.
August 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 10:45 PM) Ramon Beltre certainly is interesting. Isn't he kinda old? Was taking in DSL but I thought he was like 23
August 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 07:37 AM) Isn't he kinda old? Was taking in DSL but I thought he was like 23 He's 20 but turns 21 in October. If they push him to Kannapolis next year, he'd be age appropriate. And I'm not sure there is anyone ahead of him on the 2B depth chart. I honestly don't know much about him, but assuming he has some tools I'd give him a shot based on his results so far. The plate discipline is pretty impressive for a young LatAm prospect in our system.
August 11, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) There is no reason as of yet to convert him. This is his first full season as a minor league starting pitcher. Realistically he shouldn't even be at AAA yet. He can be made a reliever at any time. He can't be made a starter at any time. Let him start, give him his reps, let him work on mechanics, release point, and mental approach. Agree completely with this. He just needs to rebound and I think he can. He can come out of the pen worst case scenario. I feel like due to his struggles and the load of new prospects, he's forgotten about. Sox rushed him and he clearly wasn't ready last season. I do think he can be nasty out of the pen and I envision him a late inning guy maybe setting up Burdi in a couple years.
August 11, 20178 yr QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 07:53 PM) Agree completely with this. He just needs to rebound and I think he can. He can come out of the pen worst case scenario. I feel like due to his struggles and the load of new prospects, he's forgotten about. Sox rushed him and he clearly wasn't ready last season. I do think he can be nasty out of the pen and I envision him a late inning guy maybe setting up Burdi in a couple years. I agree Fulmer was rushed, but I also feel that other pitching prospects in the system have overtaken him and are more likely to pan out as starting pitchers at this point (Giolito, Lopez, Hansen, Dunning, Adams, Guerrero, Stephens).
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