Another update from the Brewers insider:

 

"Multiple" trades that are separate from this one are in place as well. Trades will happen dependent upon this (A.) move and possibly other free agent moves. Multiple trades are already agreed upon, but only to happen if (A) happens.

Could the Brewers be making a run for Yelich? A package deal of Yelich/Castro could make sense for them and makes some of their younger OF prospects expendable. Plus Castro is a 2B and fills an immediate need for them and wants out of Miami as well.

 

If I wanted to compete against the Cubs, I'd want a veteran player with experience playing in that division...versus gambling on Yolmer Sanchez making the transition.

 

It all depends on the cost-benefit analysis of the situation...Castro and Yelich are a lot more expensive players, but that would definitely excite their fanbase.

 

Where the Jacoby Ellsbury stuff is coming in, no idea. At any rate, no seeing how the White Sox would be involved if that was the trade (Yelich/Castro).

Edited January 22, 20188 yr by caulfield12

Another update from the Brewers insider:

Thanks for sharing

I know it’s all speculation right now, but if you connect all the dots this actually makes sense:

 

1) Brewers sign Lorenzo Cain to discounted deal to play CF

 

2) Brewers take on Ellsbury’s contract in exchange for Chance Adams + second high end prospect

 

3) Brewers trade Brinson, other prospects, & Ellsbury to Sox for Carlos Sanchez

 

These moves in aggregate make the Brewers a lot better IMO.

 

Also, I’ll repeat it but I find it very interesting that the Sox & Sanchez haven’t come to a salary agreement yet over $300k. Just seems like a completely immaterial amount to not be able to find a happy median with.

 

 

Another update from the Brewers insider:

 

"Multiple" trades that are separate from this one are in place as well. Trades will happen dependent upon this (A.) move and possibly other free agent moves. Multiple trades are already agreed upon, but only to happen if (A) happens.

 

wait what? that sounds rather fantastical.

Edited January 22, 20188 yr by chitownsportsfan

Can't see Ellsbury waiving his no trade clause.

Can't see Ellsbury waiving his no trade clause.

 

If he wants to play every day he will.

An alleged insider on a Brewers fan forum had this to say about an imminent trade:

 

If that's the case and it's with the White Sox, I hope Brinson and Hiura are involved on their end.

I know it’s all speculation right now, but if you connect all the dots this actually makes sense:

 

1) Brewers sign Lorenzo Cain to discounted deal to play CF

 

2) Brewers take on Ellsbury’s contract in exchange for Chance Adams + second high end prospect

 

3) Brewers trade Brinson, other prospects, & Ellsbury to Sox for Carlos Sanchez

 

These moves in aggregate make the Brewers a lot better IMO.

 

Also, I’ll repeat it but I find it very interesting that the Sox & Sanchez haven’t come to a salary agreement yet over $300k. Just seems like a completely immaterial amount to not be able to find a happy median with.

I would love this deal for the Sox. Ellsbury's contract sucks but it's worth it to get Brinson and possibly other prospects as well. And it's possible that the Yankees/Milwaukee could eat some of his contract too.

Edited January 22, 20188 yr by ChiSoxFanMike

Latest rumor had them going after Darvish. I wonder if it is moving Braun and that salary to Sox.

 

I hope not unless we are talking Brinson, Hader, etc.

I would love this deal for the Sox. Ellsbury's contract sucks but it's worth it to get Brinson and possibly other prospects as well. And it's possible that the Yankees/Milwaukee could eat some of his contract too.

Absolutely no shot the sox are taking on that Ellsbury contract.

Highly doubt they would need to trade Brinson just to dump salary. Whatever our part in this I’m going to guess it’s a lot less sexy and minor.

 

And FWIW is take a flyer on Broxton. His 2016 was good. Rather give his power a try then whatever Tilson would be.

Absolutely no shot the sox are taking on that Ellsbury contract.

If they only have to take on part of it, I hope they at least consider it if they get quality prospects along with him. Braun's contract is just as bad FWIW.

Highly doubt they would need to trade Brinson just to dump salary. Whatever our part in this I’m going to guess it’s a lot less sexy and minor.

 

And FWIW is take a flyer on Broxton. His 2016 was good. Rather give his power a try then whatever Tilson would be.

The trade I’m proposing from the Brewers’ perspective would basically be Brinson for Chance Adams & Carlos Sanchez. It wouldn’t be about dumping salary, as the Sox would always be the ultimate ending place for Ellsbury contract.

Taking on Ellsbury contact is simply buying a prospect. We just spent $50M for Robert. What would you pay for a major league prospect with star upside? If it fills a need we won’t have to address in free agency, then the financial implications are somewhat negated. Plus we should have tons of payroll space in the next three seasons anyways.

 

The thing I want to know is if we did acquire Ellsbury, do we actually play him in CF and hope to offset some cost down the road or do we simply cut him right away. He does have a no trade clause so I could them cutting him being a requirement for any deal.

Edited January 22, 20188 yr by Chicago White Sox

Taking on Ellsbury contact is simply buying a prospect. We just spent $50M for Robert. What would you pay for a major league prospect with star upside? If it fills a need we won’t have to address in free agency, then the financial implications are somewhat negated. Plus we should have tons of payroll space in the next three seasons anyways.

 

The thing I want to know is if we did acquire Ellsbury, do we actually play him in CF and hope to offset some cost down the road or do we simply cut him right away. He does have a no trade clause so I could them cutting him being a requirement for any deal.

 

Ellsbury would never waive his clause with a demand to be released with the way the market has been this offseason. He's be lucky to field anything other than a ST invite.

Ellsbury would never waive his clause with a demand to be released with the way the market has been this offseason. He's be lucky to field anything other than a ST invite.

 

A team would easily offer him an MLB deal at league minimum.

Highly doubt they would need to trade Brinson just to dump salary. Whatever our part in this I’m going to guess it’s a lot less sexy and minor.

 

And FWIW is take a flyer on Broxton. His 2016 was good. Rather give his power a try then whatever Tilson would be.

 

Entirely possible we have zero involvement. We were in discussions but who knows the final outcome.

 

White Sox Dave just posted he’s unaware of any trade talks between the Sox & Brewers.

Entirely possible we have zero involvement. We were in discussions but who knows the final outcome.

 

Seems very, very likely the WSox aren't involved

Seriously asking, what was the best (highest ranked) prospect sent along in a salary dump in a recent time frame like last 10 years.

 

Because I think it’s toussant. It hasn’t seemed like a top 100 guy has been moved.

Seriously asking, what was the best (highest ranked) prospect sent along in a salary dump in a recent time frame like last 10 years.

 

Because I think it's toussant. It hasn't seemed like a top 100 guy has been moved.

 

What did the Indians get back when they dumped Bourne and Swisher?

 

Astros dumping some of their guys like Chris Johnson, Robbie Grossman or their 1B/DH?

 

Seems like the Braves were the only one that got a huge influx from a deal.

I would love this deal for the Sox. Ellsbury's contract sucks but it's worth it to get Brinson and possibly other prospects as well. And it's possible that the Yankees/Milwaukee could eat some of his contract too.

 

Why would the Brewers do that deal? Not happening.

 

It maybe Braun being dumped on Sox. If they made a trade for example of Braun plus Brinson, Ortiz Burnes, and Lutz for Abreu they could move Thames to LF. Sign Darvish. Trade for Abreu while only increasing their payroll by 10 million or so.

The only way I can see Ellsbury being involved if it’s a three way deal with us.

 

This would be a crazy ass trade but makes some sense for all teams.

 

Brewers

-Trade: Brinson, Diaz

-Receive: Sanchez, Adams

 

Yankees

-Trade: Ellsbury, Adams, Andujar

-Receive: Low level C prospect

 

White Sox

-Trade: Sanchez, low level C prospect

-Receive: Ellsbury, Brinson, Andujar, Diaz

 

Hahn only gets that deal done with Cashman and Stearn' families tied up for ransom.

My random speculation is a prospect swap of Brinson for Hansen + Fulmer. Or maybe Cease, Fulmer, and Mendick, or some variation of us getting Brinson in exchange for pitching prospects.