November 17, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, turnin' two said: Gee, thanks mister. I totally didn't understand that super complex scenario. That still isn't remotely my point. Yeah. He has since had surgery. But how is leaking that another team backed out of a deal to acquire him because of health concerns going to help his trade value? How would it make a difference either way? It is a non issue.
November 26, 20187 yr Should find out this week what's going to happen with avi. Non tender deadline is Nov. 30
November 26, 20187 yr If they tender him a contract, wouldn't the Sox owe him like less than half of his salary if he is cut by the end of Spring Training? I remember they did that with Tank and Lawrie.
November 26, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: If they tender him a contract, wouldn't the Sox owe him like less than half of his salary if he is cut by the end of Spring Training? I remember they did that with Tank and Lawrie. 20/25% seems right.
November 27, 20187 yr Players on arbitration contracts who are cut on or before the 16th day of Spring Training are owed 30 days' termination pay (based on the prorated version of his agreed-upon arbitration salary). A player cut between the 16th day and the end of Spring Training is owed 45 days' termination pay (based on the prorated version of his agreed-upon arbitration salary). The arbitration salary becomes guaranteed if the player is on the 25-man roster when the season begins. Non guaranteed contract
November 27, 20187 yr They wouldn’t cut him in spring training. I am guessing he either agrees to a contract significantly lower than his arb figure or he gets non tendered.
November 28, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said: Merk throwing it out there that he really could be non-tendered...? Jinx lol
November 28, 20187 yr Avi Garcia is the Carlos Lee of this era. Some team will give him a ton of cash and regret it. I hope it's not us.
November 28, 20187 yr Again, referring back to guys like Cron being cut, I can't see Avi being tendered either.
November 28, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: Avi Garcia is the Carlos Lee of this era. Some team will give him a ton of cash and regret it. I hope it's not us. That's a bold statement.
November 28, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: Avi Garcia is the Carlos Lee of this era. Some team will give him a ton of cash and regret it. I hope it's not us. I actually think its quite the opposite. No one is going to give Avi a bunch of cash. If the Sox non-tender him, he'll be looking a one year deal in the $3-5M range. If he sucks again in 2019, he could be dangerously close to out of the league. That being said, he could blow up Jose Bautista style and make whatever team give him that $3-5M very happy.
November 28, 20187 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: I actually think its quite the opposite. No one is going to give Avi a bunch of cash. If the Sox non-tender him, he'll be looking a one year deal in the $3-5M range. If he sucks again in 2019, he could be dangerously close to out of the league. That being said, he could blow up Jose Bautista style and make whatever team give him that $3-5M very happy. This. In this day and age, a guy with Avi's skill set is the opposite of in demand.
November 28, 20187 yr haha I guess that is a stretch. I just meant in terms of how someone will overvalue him.
November 28, 20187 yr Just now, Greg Hibbard said: haha I guess that is a stretch. I just meant in terms of how someone will overvalue him. I really see Avi getting something like a 1/4 or 1/5 type of offer to play out his arb year. He can't play defense. He has no OBP. He can't stay healthy.
November 28, 20187 yr On the other hand, what's the risk? Sign him, and if he hits, be quick to the party and move him in June. And if he doesn't hit, release him in June.
November 28, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, GreenSox said: On the other hand, what's the risk? Sign him, and if he hits, be quick to the party and move him in June. And if he doesn't hit, release him in June. Exactly. If you release him, get ready for some angst when a Central team signs him. He'd be perfect for the Royals and that means 19 games vs. Avi. Keep him, see how he does, then react. If we're not winning this year anyway give greg one of his fave players.
November 28, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, GreenSox said: On the other hand, what's the risk? Sign him, and if he hits, be quick to the party and move him in June. And if he doesn't hit, release him in June. Yeah if they let him go, better be because they’re bringing in someone on a multi-year deal and not just creating at bats for Delmonico, etc
November 28, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, greg775 said: Exactly. If you release him, get ready for some angst when a Central team signs him. He'd be perfect for the Royals and that means 19 games vs. Avi. Keep him, see how he does, then react. If we're not winning this year anyway give greg one of his fave players. Good luck to him playing in that spacious outfield
November 29, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, fathom said: Good luck to him playing in that spacious outfield Yeah, he might have some problems in rf, but their outfield is weak anyway. He might hit and if we're ever going to start dominating the Central we have to somehow learn how to dominate Central teams and not go .500 at best against them.
November 29, 20187 yr Avi has some talent, and he plays hard, but except for 2017, he has been a replacement level player. There is a slight chance he turns into a JD Martinez sized mistake, but it is time to say good bye, and I have been one of his biggest supporters. But like fathom said, replace him with something that may be useful. Not the rebuild position fillers. Edited November 29, 20187 yr by Dick Allen
November 29, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Avi has some talent, and he plays hard, but except for 2017, he has been a replacement level player. There is a slight chance he turns into a JD Martinez sized mistake, but it is time to say good bye, and I have been one of his biggest supporters. But like fathom said, replace him with something that may be useful. Not the rebuild position fillers. Realistically, Eloy is taking Avis spot. But yah, another major league caliber OF would be ideal. Avi and Eloy in the corners would be....interesting.
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