I am not sure how much longer he has but I am fine with giving him a 3 year deal at this point with a team option as the 3rd year

Edited November 14, 20187 yr by BigHurt3515

1 minute ago, BigHurt3515 said:

I am not sure how much longer he has but I am fine with giving him a 3 year deal at this point with a team option as the 3rd year

Last year of arbitration.

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

Last year of arbitration.

I meant in terms of how much he has longer of being productive player that we want to have on the roster

I'd be fine with a three year deal to keep him around.  Depending on what the Sox do this off season, he could still be a big impact in the lineup.  Regardless of what they do, he'll be an asset for the younger guys.

3 years/$30 million.

3 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:

3 years/$30 million.

He's projected to get like $16m in arbitration next season so there's no way he would accept that. Though, I don't think it would take a lot for him to stay since it truly seems like he wants to stay here.

Edited November 14, 20187 yr by soxfan2014

I found it interesting Jose is working with a different hitting instructor this offseason.

3 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

He's projected to get like $16m in arbitration next season so there's no way he would accept that. Though, I don't think it would take a lot for him to stay since it truly seems like he wants to stay here.

Yeah, I was thinking 3/$45 million might get it done.

3 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

Yeah, I was thinking 3/$45 million might get it done.

That's what I'm thinking.

18 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

That's what I'm thinking.

Not sure Jose is going to get $15M AAV on the FA market next off season.

I'd try like 4/$50 including this year.  

Given that he's a 1B only (if that) and he'll be 32 in January, his contract is far more dependent on his 2019 season than other players. 

I don't understand how it works. If he's ticketed to make 16 million this year in arbitration, he's probably not in any hurry to sign a 4-year deal for 48 million which probably is fair to both parties.

Will he just take the 16 mill? Then sign with somebody in the offseason?

I wouldn't give him $15 million a season moving forward. But maybe that's just me.

9 minutes ago, Tony said:

At age 32+, you’re most likely paying for previous production, not future production. 

Love Jose, but not sure the long term fit is there.

Agreed. He's been a great player his entire tenure with the Sox but last year was his worst season by far and he's getting up there in age. Like I said, I'd do a 3 year and $30 million extension. No more.

Pay $16 million

re-evaluate after 2019

nobody else will pay him big money considering his age

he has a preference for the Sox so they have the advantage in negotiation

why on earth do anything else?

 

 

2 hours ago, Whitesox27 said:

3 years/$30 million.

Carlos Santana got 3/60 for similar production at a similar age.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Carlos Santana got 3/60 for similar production at a similar age.

And now the Phillies are trying desperately to trade him. Jose won't be worth that much at that age. 

2 minutes ago, Hot FiRe said:

And now the Phillies are trying desperately to trade him. Jose won't be worth that much at that age. 

Least surprising person to comment in here.

5 minutes ago, Hot FiRe said:

And now the Phillies are trying desperately to trade him. Jose won't be worth that much at that age. 

Ha, I knew this would trigger. 

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Ha, I knew this would trigger. 

It was a lousy post. Those usually result in a response.

God forbid we keep someone as a mainstay said the most anonymous org in MLB.  But it's a great place to be from said the players. At some point you take a stand and forge an identity. 

7 minutes ago, pcq said:

God forbid we keep someone as a mainstay said the most anonymous org in MLB.  But it's a great place to be from said the players. At some point you take a stand and forge an identity. 

Then let's see him turn around a really bad, injury riddled season next year and we'll talk.

If he can't, then next season there are other options on the market who performed better this year who will be available for that same money.

47 minutes ago, Hot FiRe said:

It was a lousy post. Those usually result in a response.

Facts aren't lousy.  They are facts.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Facts aren't lousy.  They are facts.

Sorry, the point behind it was lousy* I'd engage further but you have a tendency to get into petulant arguments that get threads locked, so I'll leave it at that.