December 4, 20187 yr Just now, fathom said: That's why this is such a hard thing for Hahn to pull off. If Harper/Machado don't sign until January, how does he make the necessary moves before that? He can't wait until January to try and sign the other pieces that would make those guys want to come here. Right that's what seems to be happening. How in the name of Zeus's butthole is Hahn going to convince Harper to join probably a 70 win team next year without massively overpaying to the point where it's an easy choice.
December 4, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: I'd be pissed if I were a Phillies fan. The owner pretty much flat out lied to them, unless they did outbid the Nats and Corbin declined anyway I wouldn't be. $24M AAV is way to much for Corbin.
December 4, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said: The Sox should just outbid everyone for Harper. Problem solved. 15 year, 29 million dollars a year. That way Gregor is right and everyone wins.
December 4, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said: The Sox should just outbid everyone for Harper. Problem solved. Well yeah. That's what they have to do be willing to do to have a shot.
December 4, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: I wouldn't be. $24M AAV is way to much for Corbin. Technically it's $23.3 million, and if you're not prepared to pay prices like this then there's no one on the free agent market you really will actually want. This is fair value for him. Frankly it's less AAV than I thought he'd get.
December 4, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: 15 year, 29 million dollars a year. That way Gregor is right and everyone wins. I'd honestly be perfectly fine with that. If the Sox win a World Series with him on the team that contract is a success no matter what.
December 4, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Technically it's $23.3 million, and if you're not prepared to pay prices like this then there's no one on the free agent market you really will actually want. This is fair value for him. Frankly it's less AAV than I thought he'd get. You'd be losing your mind if the Sox paid Corbin $140M.
December 4, 20187 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: You'd be losing your mind if the Sox paid Corbin $140M. I know I would. That is going to be a terrible contract in a very short amount of time.
December 4, 20187 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: You'd be losing your mind if the Sox paid Corbin $140M. Well yeah, a move that is the right move for a team that has been in the wild card race and playoffs in recent years would be a bad move for a rebuilding team with a ton of young pitching on the way up over the next 2-3 years.
December 4, 20187 yr If the Yankees had signed Corbin at this price, they’d have been out on Machado.
December 4, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I know I would. That is going to be a terrible contract in a very short amount of time. As would I. But now we get to sit here and listen to Balta tell us how great of a move it is and how its market because the Sox didn't do it. Corbin is a good not great pitcher coming off a career. He may be worth that contract for 2 seasons. It will be a terrible contract before too long, and with all the sliders Corbin throws, he is a huge injury risk.
December 4, 20187 yr Just now, Eminor3rd said: If the Yankees had signed Corbin at this price, they’d have been out on Machado. No they wouldn't have been. They'd have been out if they were unwilling to pay the luxury tax, but they've clearly said they will pay it if they want to.
December 4, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: As would I. But now we get to sit here and listen to Balta tell us how great of a move it is and how its market because the Sox didn't do it. Corbin is a good not great pitcher coming off a career. He may be worth that contract for 2 seasons. It will be a terrible contract before too long, and with all the sliders Corbin throws, he is a huge injury risk. Is it really impossible to understand that a fair market value contract given by one team would be a much worse deal for a team with a different roster? Machado at $30 million a year would be a great buy for us. That would be a pretty terrible contract for the Astros.
December 4, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: I do wonder what the Sox offered, if they even did. 4 years, 54 million with a presentation showing his jersey at the United Center
December 4, 20187 yr The Nats have been really good at identifying FA talent so part of me now thinks Corbin may end up succeeding. Also, some of you can not seem to handle anyone not baghdad bobbing that the white sox will sign every free agent and are the perfect destination. Chill out. Fathom can point out obvious issues, and Balta can also point out that the top pitcher in the FA class getting a deal slightly over last years class is about expected without attributing it to personality defects.
December 4, 20187 yr 44 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Because it shows they have their limits. The more likely scenario is they have limits set on an SP, so they could go after one of Harper and Machado. If Phillies' plan was to go after an SP and OF/3B, shouldn't losing the top tier SP give them money to still go after the 2nd tier SP and more money for Harper and Machado? Also, if Corbin went for $140 M, you could pretty much bump up any Harper/Machado projection by about 5%-10%. This is bad news for Sox.
December 4, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Soxbadger said: Is it $126 or $140mil? Because everything I see says $140, $140, forgot to edit again.
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