January 10, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Neither do 99% of the people who walk through it all the time. I appreciate the investigative work but I really don't think it means anything, it's just a phrase that he likes. It's even been in his Instagram bio for awhile now True. I just want this situation to come to a resolution one way or another. It was fun to follow along with all the rumors a couple weeks ago but that ship sailed long ago. The whole thing is aggravating now. He needs to make a decision so we can all move on with our lives.
January 10, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: Never know with this market - case in point: Grandal Could be some others. I'm still betting on no other significant FA signings.
January 10, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: True. I just want this situation to come to a resolution one way or another. It was fun to follow along with all the rumors a couple weeks ago but that ship sailed long ago. The whole thing is aggravating now. He needs to make a decision so we can all move on with our lives. Patience padawan.
January 10, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: Never know with this market - case in point: Grandal I'll be honest, if the Sox only sign 1 of the 2 big ones, and Keuchel could be had on a 1 year deal, I'd probably be ok with that. I hate the idea of a 2 year deal because of all the pitching arriving in 2020, but on a 1 year deal?
January 10, 20197 yr Just now, Balta1701 said: I'll be honest, if the Sox only sign 1 of the 2 big ones, and Keuchel could be had on a 1 year deal, I'd probably be ok with that. I hate the idea of a 2 year deal because of all the pitching arriving in 2020, but on a 1 year deal? Yeah. A 1 year deal would work.
January 10, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I'll be honest, if the Sox only sign 1 of the 2 big ones, and Keuchel could be had on a 1 year deal, I'd probably be ok with that. I hate the idea of a 2 year deal because of all the pitching arriving in 2020, but on a 1 year deal? 2 minutes ago, ptatc said: Yeah. A 1 year deal would work. What draft pick would the Sox give up for signing him? Also, keep in mind that they can't recoup that pick next year.
January 10, 20197 yr 5 minutes ago, ptatc said: Patience padawan. I'm trying. I actually really like the Sox chances of getting Machado as of now if the Yankees are indeed out of the race, it's just so frustrating for this to carry on day after day. I guess the wait is worth it though if the end result is what we want.
January 10, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I'll be honest, if the Sox only sign 1 of the 2 big ones, and Keuchel could be had on a 1 year deal, I'd probably be ok with that. I hate the idea of a 2 year deal because of all the pitching arriving in 2020, but on a 1 year deal? One year deal with an option for a second could be a good way to go in case some of the pitching doesn't pan out as predicted.
January 10, 20197 yr I have no sauces, but I have a strange suspicion that if the Sox are getting Machado it has to happen before this weekend. I just feel the longer it plays out the more likely something unpredictable happens.
January 10, 20197 yr I get the time it takes for all of this. There are multiple parties negotiating a contract in excess of 200 mil. They are going to take their time with every detail, this isn’t a video game or a fantasy sports league. Why would either side rush this to appease an awaiting public?
January 10, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: What draft pick would the Sox give up for signing him? Also, keep in mind that they can't recoup that pick next year. I believe it would cost us our 3rd round pick.
January 10, 20197 yr Just now, shipps said: I get the time it takes for all of this. There are multiple parties negotiating a contract in excess of 200 mil. They are going to take their time with every detail, this isn’t a video game or a fantasy sports league. Why would either side rush this to appease an awaiting public? For Manny - so he doesn't lose more suitors. If the Phillies sign Harper, who is he left with other than the Sox. For the teams - so they can move on with their offseason plans. I agree there isn't a rush, and this certainly has not been completed in hasty fashion, but at some point, it makes sense for both teams to get the deal done.
January 10, 20197 yr Just now, Balta1701 said: I believe it would cost us our 3rd round pick. #44 overall, I thought?
January 10, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: #44 overall, I thought? Isn't the assumption we sign Manny though too?
January 10, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, bmags said: Isn't the assumption we sign Manny though too? The team that signs Manny does not give up a draft pick. Edited January 10, 20197 yr by soxfan2014
January 10, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: For Manny - so he doesn't lose more suitors. If the Phillies sign Harper, who is he left with other than the Sox. For the teams - so they can move on with their offseason plans. I agree there isn't a rush, and this certainly has not been completed in hasty fashion, but at some point, it makes sense for both teams to get the deal done. I hear you but Manny knows who his suitors are and knows they aren't going anywhere at this point. Its pretty clear Harper is waiting on Manny to sign until he makes his move. The teams shouldnt be waiting or holding up on any of their off season plans due to this negotiation. Hell this contract IS their off season plan.
January 10, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: #44 overall, I thought? You're right, 2nd round pick. Stupid ESPN article only talked about the luxury tax and revenue sharing teams, not the ones in-between.
January 10, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: No draft pick for Manny. Oh my bad! I totally blanked on that with the trade.
January 10, 20197 yr Just now, shipps said: I hear you but Manny knows who his suitors are and knows they aren't going anywhere at this point. Its pretty clear Harper is waiting on Manny to sign until he makes his move. The teams shouldnt be waiting or holding up on any of their off season plans due to this negotiation. Hell this contract IS their off season plan. A team like the Phillies could pivot and grab Moustakas, Pollock and say another starter or reliever as opposed to waiting until almost February.
January 10, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, shipps said: I hear you but Manny knows who his suitors are and knows they aren't going anywhere at this point. Its pretty clear Harper is waiting on Manny to sign until he makes his move. The teams shouldnt be waiting or holding up on any of their off season plans due to this negotiation. Hell this contract IS their off season plan. I think the Phillies would potentially have interest in other 3B options if MM goes elsewhere. The Sox, ya - this is their plan. The Yankees, they have internal options they can roll with at the position
January 10, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Isn't the assumption we sign Manny though too? Manny was traded during the year so no pick attached. Harper would have a pick
January 10, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: You're right, 2nd round pick. Stupid ESPN article only talked about the luxury tax and revenue sharing teams, not the ones in-between. The lit on this is really annoying. There is like a single mlb.com article that addresses the costs for non lux tax teams and explicitly lists who is revenue sharing team and who isn't.
January 10, 20197 yr Just now, bmags said: Oh my bad! I totally blanked on that with the trade. All good. But maybe the poster you replied to thought so as well.
January 10, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: A team like the Phillies could pivot and grab Moustakas, Pollock and say another starter or reliever as opposed to waiting until almost February. I don't know what the dollar amounts for Pollock would be, but man that makes an awful lot of sense for the Phillies.
January 10, 20197 yr 4 minutes ago, shipps said: I get the time it takes for all of this. There are multiple parties negotiating a contract in excess of 200 mil. They are going to take their time with every detail, this isn’t a video game or a fantasy sports league. Why would either side rush this to appease an awaiting public? It has nothing to do with the public. If you don't have a deadline, then nothing happens, so sometimes it helps to set soft deadlines. In my experience, negotiations have a shelf life. Eventually everyone hates each other and the deal, which is when the deal closes. Also, the longer a deal sits, the more likely something unpredictable happens. So you can only let this go for so long. And the Sox will want to push a deadline so they can move on to other targets, which should be in Manny's interest no matter who he signs with.
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