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Machado signs with Padres 10/300

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Just now, SoxBlanco said:

In that scenario, who do you think gets Harper?

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2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Think best thing right now is to really hope Phillies get Harper in the next few days.  If they meet with him and feel like he’s not coming there, I hate our chances for Manny.

The next few days are really going to suck!

Just now, whitesoxwinner said:

Bucket hasn't said anything today but what he said a few days back about the sox likely getting this done. RaBBit yesterday said that he'd be surprised if it didn't happen by Wednesday. I'm going with those guys over notHahn

Bingo

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Think best thing right now is to really hope Phillies get Harper in the next few days.  If they meet with him and feel like he’s not coming there, I hate our chances for Manny.

Ive been pretty positive about Manny, but last week I said a few times that the deal needed to get done by Friday. Now there is obviously still a chance that the Sox sign Manny, and they have much better odds than id have thought a year ago, but I feel like deals have "momentum". And you need to get the deal done while it has positive momentum. 

It just seems like the Sox could have Manny if they really want him. And for whatever reason they are just holding out on giving into what he wants. 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Nats/Dodgers/Cubs

If Manny goes to Phili, I like our chances to get Harper better than all three of those teams.

Hahn is going to need armed guards protecting him during SoxFest if he comes up empty.

2 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said:

Bucket hasn't said anything today but what he said a few days back about the sox likely getting this done. RaBBit yesterday said that he'd be surprised if it didn't happen by Wednesday. I'm going with those guys over notHahn

I just refuse to believe these negotiations have been some sort of up and down like the "sources" claim. That's not how they work. It's a slow burn. It's not "today, he's coming. Tomorrow, he's not." 

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Will be interesting to find out if Chili is also hearing bad news.

2 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said:

Bucket hasn't said anything today but what he said a few days back about the sox likely getting this done. RaBBit yesterday said that he'd be surprised if it didn't happen by Wednesday. I'm going with those guys over notHahn

Bingo. These two have established track records. 

 

No offense to NotHahn but I’m not going to allow something he has heard to cause some heartache

Can’t imagine what the bad news would possibly be. The Phillies aren’t going to bowl him over the day they’re meeting with Harper. 

Just now, SoCalSox said:

Bingo. These two have established track records. 

 

No offense to NotHahn but I’m not going to allow something he has heard to cause some heartache

Like to hear what he has to say. NotHahn, what do you hear?

1 minute ago, maggsmaggs said:

I just refuse to believe these negotiations have been some sort of up and down like the "sources" claim. That's not how they work. It's a slow burn. It's not "today, he's coming. Tomorrow, he's not." 

In general though when there’s momentum building and then just kinda stops typically there’s a snag. Doesn’t mean it’s over, but I’m not surprised to hear there isn’t rosy news.

1 minute ago, Saufley said:

Like to hear what he has to say. NotHahn, what do you hear?

I think he's still driving. It will probably be a bit before we get any deets.

18 minutes ago, TitoMB345 said:

And with those 12 words, the hearts of all of Soxtalk are broken. ?

Jokes on you! I've had my heart broken so many times there is nothing left to break!

 

So much for the two whales theory.

Just kidding.

But I think any reasonable White Sox fan would be happy with just one.

Of course, since it’s like noon in Las Vegas, not sure how anyone would know much about the Boras/Harper meeting with the Phils.

 

2 minutes ago, bmags said:

In general though when there’s momentum building and then just kinda stops typically there’s a snag. Doesn’t mean it’s over, but I’m not surprised to hear there isn’t rosy news.

Yep. If they were "close" this thing would be done. You dont add Yonder/Jay, and then miss out on Manny over $10 mil total on a contract. 

NotHahn's response was extremely vague. Maybe the birthday cake just didn't taste good. ?‍♂️

4 minutes ago, maggsmaggs said:

I just refuse to believe these negotiations have been some sort of up and down like the "sources" claim. That's not how they work. It's a slow burn. It's not "today, he's coming. Tomorrow, he's not." 

At least on the football side of things, that not how any of this works.

 

There is either progress or no news. Especially if a team is as deep as the Sox, it doesn’t just magically become bad news the next day. 

 

Maybe the Phillies upped an offer but at this point, that’s all part of the negotiations. The Sox will have to counter. 

1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said:

NotHahn's response was extremely vague. Maybe the birthday cake just didn't taste good. ?‍♂️

Gave him the runs probably.

2 minutes ago, bmags said:

In general though when there’s momentum building and then just kinda stops typically there’s a snag. Doesn’t mean it’s over, but I’m not surprised to hear there isn’t rosy news.

But what momentum was actually building?  I think we’re all confusing the addition of Jay and some random tweets from insiders to suggest things were actually moving when in reality I don’t think that’s probably not the case.  To me, it really seems like it’s been the same stand-still for weeks, except now the Yankees are out and we’ved added another one of Manny’s friends.  Those are good things, but not indicative of any momentum.  Nothing really going to change in that respect until one side finally blinks.

board: “Give us ANY information ANYTHiNG”

poster: “bad news...”

board: “oh check out this guy acting like an insider what does he know I’ll take my GoOD info from days ago.”

6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Can’t imagine what the bad news would possibly be. The Phillies aren’t going to bowl him over the day they’re meeting with Harper. 

My guess is it's something like this:

Our negotiations with Machado have slowed recently. There was some momentum and hope that we would reach a deal this week, but both sides appear to be far apart on the money side of things. This may drag into February. The bright side is that Philadelphia is not meeting his asking price at the moment either.

Just now, bmags said:

board: “Give us ANY information ANYTHiNG”

poster: “bad news...”

board: “oh check out this guy acting like an insider what does he know I’ll take my GoOD info from days ago.”

lol. nice.

1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said:

Gave him the runs probably.

Soupy poopy with a side of green apple splatters. Gotta watch those refined carbs and sugars!

Well, if the Phillies somehow manage to get both guys...we can ship them all of our newly-acquired vets for more Tier B/C prospects.

Maybe notHahn works for Dan Clark Sports, lol.  How would anyone know?

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