3 minutes ago, ptatc said:

That's not necessarily what I meant. I meant that they are still in the rebuild. A signing of either of them just speeds up the rebuild but they should continue the process and not sign some mediocre pitcher. If there was a 26 year old top of the rotation pitcher to sign like the current FA, they should look at it. Otherwise, they will continue with the rebuild.

 

Have to see what the contract looks like, but if/when there is an opt out it will make it a lot harder to continue with the rebuild. Can’t wait another 2 years if you possibly only have Manny for 4.

Phil Rogers works for Forbes?  Say what now?

1 minute ago, LittleHurt05 said:

Phil Rogers works for Forbes?  Say what now?

He's their national sportswriter now.

So do we think the reports from last night are actually bad for the Sox? Do we think those are leaks and they’re being used for leverage?

Just now, KnightsOnMintSt said:

So do we think the reports from last night are actually bad for the Sox? Do we think those are leaks and they’re being used for leverage?

Not bad, but potentially a sign this is far from over.

2 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said:

So do we think the reports from last night are actually bad for the Sox? Do we think those are leaks and they’re being used for leverage?

Passan going out of his way to say the Sox aren't the favorites for Machado seemed noteworthy.

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

Not bad, but potentially a sign this is far from over.

agree 100%, somebody leaked false info last night, whether it was the ESPN guys or Bob, who knows?

7 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said:

Phil Rogers works for Forbes?  Say what now?

I'm pretty sure any of us could go write for forbes if we put our mind to it. 

3 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said:

agree 100%, somebody leaked false info last night, whether it was the ESPN guys or Bob, who knows?

Seems like Passan/Gomez leaks were from the agent side, trying to keep Philly (and Yankees? Mystery team?) bidding up. Nightengale got info from Sox to slow down any other teams upping the bid. 

At this point, also seems like both Harper and Machado are waiting for each other to sign. They both probably think they are better than the other, and want to use the other's contract as leverage.

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5 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Passan going out of his way to say the Sox aren't the favorites for Machado seemed noteworthy.

I must have missed this. Where did he say this?

I'm guessing Bruce went to bed early last night and has just caught up

 

4 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Passan going out of his way to say the Sox aren't the favorites for Machado seemed noteworthy.

Until the sox actually sign a big free agent, this feeling is pretty universal in the writers and analysts discussions 

4 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Passan going out of his way to say the Sox aren't the favorites for Machado seemed noteworthy.

When did Passan say that? 

2 hours ago, Ross Gload Fan said:

Woah woah woah. You truly believe this? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and blame this ridiculousness on it being early Monday morning. Holy hell, that is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard.

Lol cmon guys i said i fear it, not that I believe it. Anyways it wouldn’t be Cease it’d likely be Rodan. You can’t tell me if Hahn(again in a hypothetical overpay) offered Eloy/Abreu/Rodan for Arenado/etc they wouldn’t accept in an instant. He is leaving Colorado, playoff team or not. Are they losing him for nothing? 

But really, some of you guys need to unwind a bit. This is just as likely as the Sox getting Harper and Machado lol

 

 

Passan has always been partial to the cubs so I do not give any credence whateoever to his reporting about the White Sox.

 

 

3 minutes ago, SoCalSox said:

When did Passan say that? 

I didn't see him say that either.

4 minutes ago, Flash Tizzle said:

Lol cmon guys i said i fear it, not that I believe it. Anyways it wouldn’t be Cease it’d likely be Rodan. You can’t tell me if Hahn(again in a hypothetical overpay) offered Eloy/Abreu/Rodan for Arenado/etc they wouldn’t accept in an instant. He is leaving Colorado, playoff team or not. Are they losing him for nothing? 

But really, some of you guys need to unwind a bit. This is just as likely as the Sox getting Harper and Machado lol

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

I must have missed this. Where did he say this?

Perhaps I'm being too pessimistic and took this quote out of context. Here's what Passan wrote in the final paragraph of his column: "Chicago already has traded for first baseman Yonder Alonso, Machado's brother-in-law, and signed outfielder Jon Jay, a close friend. The transactions by themselves haven't swayed Machado to deem the White Sox a favorite, but they were strong indications of Chicago's seriousness about signing Machado."

edit - I should have reread his article before making that post. Initially I thought Passan was saying the Sox hadn't done enough to be considered the favorites for Machado, when he was just referencing the acquisitions of Alonso & Jay.

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4 minutes ago, glangon said:

I'm guessing Bruce went to bed early last night and has just caught up

 

I'm surprised he's not retweeting Nightengale about the Sox NOT offering 8 years.

28 minutes ago, fathom said:

Sure seemed like a leak to Passan to get other teams to raise their bids.

Would Hector Gomez be along for the ride, as well?

Just now, hogan873 said:

I didn't see him say that either.

Everything I've seen is about offers, years, etc.

I've even seen Nightengale say the Sox are viewed as the favorites.

Nothing from Passan saying they aren't though. 

Mlb picking this up.

2 minutes ago, Orlando said:

 

Someone is in trouble for this one

“The transactions alone...” and “they were strong indications...” means exactly that they weren’t the favorites...until they upped the offer by a year and $40 million