January 14, 20197 yr I think the fans are feeling the frustration the FO is feeling. Things can change quickly though. Hopefully there not damaged relationship cause by this screwed up free agent process. Doubt there will be cause they are professionals but cant help to think these leaks/tweets are doing some sort of damage.
January 14, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Roughneck said: How exactly are fans pressuring Jerry? By being angry on twitter? We're angry on twitter 24/7. In fact, everybody is miserable on twitter. That's what it's for. If there were thousands of people screaming outside the park, that might get Jerry's attention. But yelling online and a dozen people calling their ticket agent threatening to cancel their package for next year unless we sign Machado isn't doing a thing. 5 minutes ago, Princess Dye said: when this is all over i am going to be too exhausted to order my season tickets. will need an extended rest and perhaps warm bath PD ain't the only one.
January 14, 20197 yr Again I think a lot is at stake for this franchise. They miss and a lot of people stay away and the brass will have so much heat upon them that they do something stupid
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, Nardiwashere said: The "Sox are pissing off fans by negotiating" takes are laughable. I agree, but I also think it would be less public a negotiation if we were a different type of fanbase.
January 14, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: The "Sox are pissing off fans by negotiating" takes are laughable. It doesn't matter if they get him. But if they don't, the perception is automatically going to snap to they were to cheap for the hundredth time. That's something of a problem. Maybe not a huge problem, but certainly a problem. Edited January 14, 20197 yr by mqr
January 14, 20197 yr I don’t know what to think about all of this. Supposedly Philly has an offer out as well but not a peep about the terms.
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, Nardiwashere said: The "Sox are pissing off fans by negotiating" takes are laughable. It's not that they are negotiating it's that it appears to now be a way of laying the groundwork for failing to sign Machado because they refuse to go more than 7 years.
January 14, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: The "Sox are pissing off fans by negotiating" takes are laughable. If they don’t land him, it perpetuates the idea that the Sox are a cheap franchise not willing to do what’s necessary to win. It goes against all this “change” they have been preaching.
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, Harry Chappas said: It's not that they are negotiating it's that it appears to now be a way of laying the groundwork for failing to sign Machado because they refuse to go more than 7 years. That would be such a horrible way to lay the groundwork.
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, Harry Chappas said: It's not that they are negotiating it's that it appears to now be a way of laying the groundwork for failing to sign Machado because they refuse to go more than 7 years. This. They're running the risk if he signs elsewhere of a fanbase calling for everyone's jobs and not going to a game.
January 14, 20197 yr Here's my personal take on what's happened: The Sox have had the best offer at something like 7/210 for a few weeks now. They were ready to go to 8/250 this weekend to get the deal done and felt confident that Manny would accept, which is why there was a lot of internal "source" confidence about early this week. Instead, Lozano took the new offer and immediately shopped it through Passan. The Sox front office, already frustrated, took it personally and I are now telling everyone in the media they know that their offer is only 7 years.
January 14, 20197 yr If they don't land him, good luck getting more than 10,000 people to show up per game next year. It would make the fans even more pissed off than they already are, and deservedly so. They can't fuck this up.
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, Sockin said: This. They're running the risk if he signs elsewhere of a fanbase calling for everyone's jobs and not going to a game. It would be well deserved.
January 14, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: The "Sox are pissing off fans by negotiating" takes are laughable. When you have an owner who is well known for being cheap and valuing image and loyalty over winning, that's what happens. Its years of frustration boiling over, not this one negotiation
January 14, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, Sockin said: This. They're running the risk if he signs elsewhere of a fanbase calling for everyone's jobs and not going to a game. I thought this was sarcasm, at first. Yet I sense you feel this should be an actual consideration of the front office.
January 14, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Sockin said: This. They're running the risk if he signs elsewhere of a fanbase calling for everyone's jobs and not going to a game. It seems they just don't learn or care.
January 14, 20197 yr Just now, mqr said: That would be such a horrible way to lay the groundwork. That is the only take I can get from leaking this to 4 different reporters after there was little to no activity on this for weeks. Now all of a sudden we get the 4 leaks from the White Sox all stating the same thing, The feeling I am getting is this is the logjam. Not the AAV but the years.
January 14, 20197 yr 11 minutes ago, bmags said: PD ain't the only one. Yeah, we'll all be furious if we come out of this offseason with a Carlos Boozer. That is going to bring canceled ST packages, lots of no shows who already bought tix, loud booing at all games, and basically the top response to every team tweet for the next year being rage. But we're not there yet. If the Sox sign Machado, we're all going to get a second wind here. 5 minutes ago, Princess Dye said: I agree, but I also think it would be less public a negotiation if we were a different type of fanbase. I don't think so. The Sox can't keep things under wraps on a deal this big. News was going to get out, and all teams play the press in response to rumors. This is the first time we've ever been in on a fish this big or a deal like this, so it seems unprecedented.
January 14, 20197 yr I'm sure that if they don't end up landing him they'll just leak the best offer they had for him, and maybe that would prevent fans from being angry
January 14, 20197 yr Damn! And someone is signing Avi away from us. Edited January 14, 20197 yr by Saufley
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