February 12, 20197 yr 10 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: First Hahn and now Thome? Oh nooo! And John Mcdonough grew up a White Sox fan. It's like a bizarro world.
February 12, 20197 yr 5 minutes ago, SoxAce said: And John Mcdonough grew up a White Sox fan. It's like a bizarro world. Ha ha, Soxtalk has turned into a Seinfeld episode!
February 12, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: Ha ha, Soxtalk has turned into a Seinfeld episode! This thread gives off more of a Looney Tunes vibe.
February 12, 20197 yr 36 minutes ago, ptatc said: In that area, it's either Cubs or Cardinals. yep, all Cubs license plates here, I've seen maybe 3 Sox plates in my town (I live about 15 minutes from where Thome grew up), I've seen a hundred Cubs plates
February 12, 20197 yr 47 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: First Hahn and now Thome? Oh nooo! What do you say we NASCAR this into a conspiracy theory. Left turns anyone? NASCAR because people are just purposefully looking for a crash.
February 12, 20197 yr 32 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: Ha ha, Soxtalk has turned into a Seinfeld episode! Or a Superman comic.
February 12, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, ptatc said: NASCAR because people are just purposefully looking for a crash. You just made the song Transfusion from Nervous Norvus pop into my head.
February 12, 20197 yr 31 minutes ago, Swingandalongonetoleft said: This thread gives off more of a Looney Tunes vibe. Lol that's a good one!
February 12, 20197 yr 48 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: yep, all Cubs license plates here, I've seen maybe 3 Sox plates in my town (I live about 15 minutes from where Thome grew up), I've seen a hundred Cubs plates I'd say it's 48/48/2/1/1 cubs/cards/yanks/sox/everyone else respectively in Peoria area. I went to the same high school as Thome. I met him once at a gas station couple blocks from my house, during the offseason, around the first year he was with the Phillies. Awesome guy. 1 hour ago, ptatc said: Yes. Growing up in Peoria. They had the Peoria Cubs, a minor league affiliate. I believe he talked about it at the time. Peoria Chiefs is the team, and it's alternated 3 or 4 times since early 90s between the Cubs(Mark Grace was one I believe) and Cards(Albert Pujols) as their Single A team. Edited February 12, 20197 yr by TheBlackSox8
February 12, 20197 yr 7 hours ago, drgiggles15 said: If a player is out for a year due to Tommy John, like Kopech, do we lose a year of his contract as well? What about if a player is suspended? Just for example, we sign a guy to a 5 year deal and he is injured the whole year or suspended, does that still count as a year of service even tho they didn't play? Probably a stupid question, I know. Yes players accrue service time on the MLB DLm
February 12, 20197 yr https://theloopsports.com/2019/02/12/a-south-side-coup-detat-how-the-white-sox-could-shock-the-baseball-world-and-sign-both-machado-and-harper/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
February 12, 20197 yr 10 minutes ago, iamshack said: https://theloopsports.com/2019/02/12/a-south-side-coup-detat-how-the-white-sox-could-shock-the-baseball-world-and-sign-both-machado-and-harper/amp/?__twitter_impression=true … and now pitching for that Chicago White Sox line-up, Eddie Harris:
February 12, 20197 yr 17 minutes ago, iamshack said: https://theloopsports.com/2019/02/12/a-south-side-coup-detat-how-the-white-sox-could-shock-the-baseball-world-and-sign-both-machado-and-harper/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Vegas has the White Sox 3rd to sign Machado behind the Yankees and the Padres. Not even on the list for Harper. Edited February 12, 20197 yr by ptatc
February 12, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, ptatc said: Vegas has the White Sox 3rd to sign Machado behind the Yankees and the Padres. And the Yankees are not getting Machado. I would also be shocked to see the Padres beat the rumored 8/250 offer.
February 12, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, ptatc said: Vegas has the White Sox 3rd to sign Machado behind the Yankees and the Padres. This isn’t entirely true. Nevada sports books can only offer prop bets that take place on the playing surface and can be verified in a box score. The only exceptions are coin tosses. The sports books taking action on where Manny signs are off shore.
February 12, 20197 yr 13 minutes ago, ptatc said: Vegas has the White Sox 3rd to sign Machado behind the Yankees and the Padres. Not even on the list for Harper. I said this a few pages back, but I'll say it again. 1. BetOnline is from Australia NOT VEGAS. Vegas cannot take that kind of prop bet. It is ILLEGAL. 2. Books don't post odds based on info (to an extent). They post odds based on where the money is coming in so that they can cover themselves. So, if the money is coming in on the Yankees (which it will b/c they're the yankees and everyone bets on the big boys), they're going to make the odds worse for the Yanks to entice bets being placed on the teams where they have less exposure.
February 12, 20197 yr Alot of talk about the betting odds. Not sure if this was posted yet but they actually changed a bit
February 12, 20197 yr 35 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: And the Yankees are not getting Machado. I would also be shocked to see the Padres beat the rumored 8/250 offer. Call Vegas insider then. The Sox are 5/1 Bet 100 and make 500. Yankees are 1/2. They are such a prohibitive favorite that it's not worth betting. Edited February 12, 20197 yr by ptatc
February 12, 20197 yr 22 minutes ago, Kiebs13 said: I said this a few pages back, but I'll say it again. 1. BetOnline is from Australia NOT VEGAS. Vegas cannot take that kind of prop bet. It is ILLEGAL. 2. Books don't post odds based on info (to an extent). They post odds based on where the money is coming in so that they can cover themselves. So, if the money is coming in on the Yankees (which it will b/c they're the yankees and everyone bets on the big boys), they're going to make the odds worse for the Yanks to entice bets being placed on the teams where they have less exposure. My apologies. The Vegas insider has those odds. Didn't realize that it wasn't tied to Vegas. Either way those are the current odds of places where you can bet on those types of things.
February 12, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, ptatc said: My apologies. The Vegas insider has those odds. Didn't realize that it wasn't tied to Vegas. Either way those are the current odds of places where you can bet on those types of things. right, but the point is, odds aren't "technically" based on predictions. they're based on where the money is coming in and where the money will come in based on the odds given. EDIT: as someone else posted, the sox "odds" increased within an hr or two to +200 right behind the yankees who dropped back to +100. essentially meaning the money was coming in on the white sox. nothing actually changed to give them better odds. im not trying to be hostile in any way, just trying to make sure everyone understands the meaning of those numbers. Edited February 12, 20197 yr by Kiebs13
February 12, 20197 yr 10 hours ago, drgiggles15 said: If a player is out for a year due to Tommy John, like Kopech, do we lose a year of his contract as well? What about if a player is suspended? Just for example, we sign a guy to a 5 year deal and he is injured the whole year or suspended, does that still count as a year of service even tho they didn't play? Probably a stupid question, I know. If a player signed to an extension or free agent contract misses a year, he gets the full pay and the team just misses him for that year. Same for suspension, but with no pay. There isn't another year tacked on and the player still hits free agency at the same time. However, since Kopech is still under team control and playing for the minimum, the Sox won't lose a year of control. For all intents and purposes, it's like he's spending another year in the minors, contract wise.
February 12, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Roughneck said: If a player signed to an extension or free agent contract misses a year, he gets the full pay and the team just misses him for that year. Same for suspension, but with no pay. There isn't another year tacked on and the player still hits free agency at the same time. However, since Kopech is still under team control and playing for the minimum, the Sox won't lose a year of control. For all intents and purposes, it's like he's spending another year in the minors, contract wise. I don't think this is correct. He got injured while on the MLB roster so his service counts.
February 12, 20197 yr 4 minutes ago, Kiebs13 said: right, but the point is, odds aren't "technically" based on predictions. they're based on where the money is coming in and where the money will come in based on the odds given. That wasn't my point. My point is if people are confident that he will sign with the Sox, you can make good money on it.
February 12, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, ptatc said: I don't think this is correct. He got injured while on the MLB roster so his service counts. Yeah, he is incorrect. The injury occurred while he was on the ML roster, so he has to be put on the ML disabled list where he still gets service time.
February 12, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, Kiebs13 said: right, but the point is, odds aren't "technically" based on predictions. they're based on where the money is coming in and where the money will come in based on the odds given. Yes, and this is why teams like the Cubs will always have better odds than they should in bad years. Dopes will put money on them to win the world series coming off a 100 loss season just because they're so damn lovable and you gotta believe and such nonsense. Since money will come in no matter what, they give the Cubs better odds so they would have to pay out less in the instance they were to win.
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