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18 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

 I think a guy trying to throw a ball 110 mph in the offseaon ultimately requiring tj surgery shouldn't be shocking to anyone.

Maybe why Dombrowski made him available.

He was a TJS candidate in waiting.

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42 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

One possibility is that it is just way, way tougher to project pitching than we think...and as a consequence, trying to base a rebuild on acquiring pitching prospects is a terrible idea. Basing the rebuild on a huge load of pitching prospects is to the letter what Rick Hahn did. It could be that basic - pitching prospects look nice, but acquiring a bunch of them could remain a path that doesn't work. 

 

The Padres are rebuilding via pitching; so did the Braves. I don't see how that's the problem, nor do I see that as what Hahn really did.  He took pitching, but not an inordinate amount.  Of course he's basically ignored the international market except for a few select players....that helps bulk up on prospects.

The problem isn't philosophy...it's that he and the people who work for him are poor evaluators and developers of talent.  A lot of teams were staying away from Fulmer - that was Sale arrogance and in the end, they couldn't/didn't develop him (and they had taken Danish, another delivery problem, just a year or so earlier with a high pick).  And for further proof of he and his staff's talent evaluation skills, look at the veterans he's signed...it's horrific.  Heck 3 retired mid-contract.  If you can't find veterans who are at least capable, how are you going to evaluate prospects.

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14 minutes ago, chetkincaid said:

Who are you going to spend the money on? Next year's free agent class is lacking.

Go hard after Gerrit Cole, JD Martinez, and Nick Castellenos. 

Trade prospects for a guy like Grienke. 

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4 minutes ago, GradMc said:

Maybe why Dombrowski made him available.

He was a TJS candidate in waiting.

That‘s okay. According to Soxtalk‘s resident doctors, Chris Sale was a tommy john surgery waiting to happen when he was drafted and his arm falls off when he throws more than 85 pitches. 🤣

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1 minute ago, GermanSoxFan said:

That‘s okay. According to Soxtalk‘s resident doctors, Chris Sale was a tommy john surgery waiting to happen when he was drafted and his arm falls off when he throws more than 85 pitches. 🤣

But Kopech'a arm did.

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