April 19, 20196 yr Just now, Tony said: It's actually shocking how bad MLB got this Is it really tho?
April 19, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, mqr said: Regardless what you think about the use of the word, It shouldn't be up to the MLB to dictate whether or not it is okay for Tim to use the word. Not if they're going to allow other forms of swearing. Who should it be up to if not MLB? I believe it is reasonable to have a few words that are absolutely off limits. There are easily understood differences between Damn it, fuck it, and the n word (plus a couple more). And the rule would have to be applied consistently, no matter who says it. Not all swearing is equal.
April 19, 20196 yr Just now, Texsox said: Who should it be up to if not MLB? I believe it is reasonable to have a few words that are absolutely off limits. There are easily understood differences between Damn it, fuck it, and the n word (plus a couple more). And the rule would have to be applied consistently, no matter who says it. Not all swearing is equal. And this instance is a terrible time and place to decide that. I don't think I need to spell the optics of this out to you.
April 19, 20196 yr I'm of the general belief that MLB is a very well run league that makes a ton of money relative to the size of its fanbase and has done a great job of modernizing their media presence, etc. So as far as I'm concerned I don't see it as part of a narrative of terrible management, but they've really bungled this.
April 19, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Texsox said: Who should it be up to if not MLB? I believe it is reasonable to have a few words that are absolutely off limits. There are easily understood differences between Damn it, fuck it, and the n word (plus a couple more). And the rule would have to be applied consistently, no matter who says it. Not all swearing is equal. Well yea, and context here is critical, TA using AA vernacular to call a white guy a "n_gga" is the height of over-reaction.
April 19, 20196 yr This is far from the only word that is acceptable in some situations and not in others. It doesn't take a genius to figure out context.
April 19, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Jake said: I'm of the general belief that MLB is a very well run league that makes a ton of money relative to the size of its fanbase and has done a great job of modernizing their media presence, etc. So as far as I'm concerned I don't see it as part of a narrative of terrible management, but they've really bungled this. Stagnated growth of your customer base is absolutely a sign of shit management. They are quite good at treading water with things like MLBAM, though.
April 19, 20196 yr The NFL a couple years ago decided to make it a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when players said the N word (I think it is presumed that if white or other non-black players say it, the eventual penalties would be more severe) and suspensions were possible for repeat offenders. They rolled out this policy in coordination with and with advice from black executives and players. MLB had to come up with a punishment on the spot for this and I just don't like the optics of suspending Tim when he'd already been booted from the game. This is all in the context of a situation instigated by a pitcher trying to hurt him.
April 19, 20196 yr LOL, MAGA idiots on twitter trying to act like a black guy calling a white guy the word is the same as the reverse. Litmus test for common sense and MLB failed this one.
April 19, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Jake said: The NFL a couple years ago decided to make it a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when players said the N word (I think it is presumed that if white or other non-black players say it, the eventual penalties would be more severe) and suspensions were possible for repeat offenders. They rolled out this policy in coordination with and with advice from black executives and players. MLB had to come up with a punishment on the spot for this and I just don't like the optics of suspending Tim when he'd already been booted from the game. This is all in the context of a situation instigated by a pitcher trying to hurt him. No they didn't. It wasn't broadcasted on a hot mic as is common in the NFL, it was a thing a handful of white and hispanic people heard on the field of play, they could have just, I don't know, did nothing?
April 19, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Jake said: The NFL a couple years ago decided to make it a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when players said the N word (I think it is presumed that if white or other non-black players say it, the eventual penalties would be more severe) and suspensions were possible for repeat offenders. They rolled out this policy in coordination with and with advice from black executives and players. MLB had to come up with a punishment on the spot for this and I just don't like the optics of suspending Tim when he'd already been booted from the game. This is all in the context of a situation instigated by a pitcher trying to hurt him. I don't know if the players have been warned on this or not, but they in at the very least can let him know first that he can't be saying that word out on the field like that, and if it happens again, there will be consequences. Whatever, I get it, but Keller's suspension should have been more severe.
April 19, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: LOL, MAGA idiots on twitter trying to act like a black guy calling a white guy the word is the same as the reverse. Litmus test for common sense and MLB failed this one. White fragility...it's a thing
April 19, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: So firing a baseball at a player is the same level of offense as some bad words. False equivalence is a helluva fucking thing. Careful, you can get suspended for that sort of language!
April 19, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, Texsox said: Who should it be up to if not MLB? I believe it is reasonable to have a few words that are absolutely off limits. There are easily understood differences between Damn it, fuck it, and the n word (plus a couple more). And the rule would have to be applied consistently, no matter who says it. Not all swearing is equal. What's the difference? The N-word was created to degrade and entire race of people. They decided they want to take the word back, end it with an "a" instead of "er" and use it casually. You know who doesnt have a right to tell a black man not to say it? A bunch of white people who have no understanding of it.
April 19, 20196 yr Was he wrong to say it?...maybe. Is MLB stupid for suspending him at all about it?...probably. Is all of this ultimately making Tim Anderson much more popular...definitely.
April 19, 20196 yr As a White Sox fan, I no longer trust Joe West to be a fair arbiter of anything on the field that involves our team. If other Sox fans feel the same way, perhaps an on-line petition should be started where Sox fans can request the Commissioner to bar mean Joe West from umpiring any game involving the White Sox in the future. It would be better if this guy retires or leaves under other circumstances, but I for one am sick of that mofo fat cracker.
April 19, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: What's the difference? The N-word was created to degrade and entire race of people. They decided they want to take the word back, end it with an "a" instead of "er" and use it casually. You know who doesnt have a right to tell a black man not to say it? A bunch of white people who have no understanding of it. Ding ding ding. Yup.
April 19, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Kalapse said: No they didn't. It wasn't broadcasted on a hot mic as is common in the NFL, it was a thing a handful of white and hispanic people heard on the field of play, they could have just, I don't know, did nothing? Exactly. The NFL was concerned about protecting the shield and their largely red neck ass fanbase getting offended. It was for optics. This had nothing to with optics for MLB, which, ha, I guess they are finding out.
April 19, 20196 yr At least we’ve learned that charging an umpire and swearing at them is less dangerous and sets a better example than what Timmy did.
April 19, 20196 yr 34 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: According to what I'm seeing on Twitter, Schwarber charged the umpire the other day screaming "fuck you, fuck you" and MLB did nothing. Glad to know that physical intimidation coupled with verbal threats is OK. It is amazing he wasn't suspended for that.
April 19, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, wegner said: In the next collective bargaining agreement, we need a list of the words that cannot be used they should just take Carlin's list...
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