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Ricky Renteria Has Made Me a Lineup Scold

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My name is bmags, and I have found lineup complaining to largely be disproportionate to its impact.

But the last two lineups are so frustrating, and I am so sick of this employment of the L-R matchups as the uber strategy in baseball.

Today's lineup.

 

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    Renteria is the worst strategical manager I've ever seen on the South Side.  I thought that was absolutely impossible after Ventura.

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Yup. How can you bat a guy 2, then pinch hit for him with another bad hitter, then do it AGAIN the next day

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Honestly feels like he thinks there is a minimum weight for the 5 hole hitter. "No, not anderson, he is not fat enough"

Why hasn't anyone in the postgame asked him about this?

Main issue I have with the lineup is continuing to blindly bat Alonso 4th.  Move the dude down, FFS. 

Garcia

Moncada

Anderson

Abreu

Then do whatever the hell you want, but stop with Alonso and Demonico, ugh

Just now, mqr said:

Garcia

Moncada

Anderson

Abreu

Then do whatever the hell you want, but stop with Alonso and Demonico, ugh

I would take that, but I'd prefer

Anderson

Moncada

Abreu

Jimenez

Whatever 5-9

Every single game, regardless of the handedness of the pitcher 

21 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

I would take that, but I'd prefer

Anderson

Moncada

Abreu

Jimenez

Whatever 5-9

Every single game, regardless of the handedness of the pitcher 

What is wrong with Leury as a leadoff man?  He's a better option than Anderson IMO.  He's been great there.  

I also prefer Anderson in leadoff because of the SB potential turning into a quick 1st inning run.

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Renteria is the worst strategical manager I've ever seen on the South Side.  I thought that was absolutely impossible after Ventura.

4 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Renteria is the worst strategical manager I've ever seen on the South Side.  I thought that was absolutely impossible after Ventura.

Honestly, bring Waldo the White Sox Wolf in as manager at this point. The most failed of mascots would be better.

54 minutes ago, bmags said:

My name is bmags, and I have found lineup complaining to largely be disproportionate to its impact.

But the last two lineups are so frustrating, and I am so sick of this employment of the L-R matchups as the uber strategy in baseball.

Today's lineup.

 

This...just doesn't make sense. Today's lineup is even worse than yesterday's with McCann being given a break. Anderson needs to be hitting cleanup in this lineup, even with his current regression, and with honestly Tilson leading off and Moncada hitting 2nd.

Our two worst hitters are batting 4th and 5th. Logic

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36 minutes ago, Quin said:

Honestly, bring Waldo the White Sox Wolf in as manager at this point. The most failed of mascots would be better.

He wasn't a failed mascot. He was perfect. Everyone else failed. We failed him.

1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

What is wrong with Leury as a leadoff man?  He's a better option than Anderson IMO.  He's been great there.  

Nothing really. I just want to maximize TA's PAs

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Renteria is the worst strategical manager I've ever seen on the South Side.  I thought that was absolutely impossible after Ventura.

But remember he's part of the White Sox "family" and probably works relatively cheaply...therefore he stays in place.

46 minutes ago, bmags said:

He wasn't a failed mascot. He was perfect. Everyone else failed. We failed him.

I can so-sign this. Wolves are probably my favorite animal because of Waldo.

Plus, I made this thread in 2011.

 

1 hour ago, Quin said:

Honestly, bring Waldo the White Sox Wolf in as manager at this point. The most failed of mascots would be better.

The Silver and Black Pack!

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Renteria is the worst strategical manager I've ever seen on the South Side.  I thought that was absolutely impossible after Ventura.

Ventura was never as bad as Ricky. Ventura was more of a scapegoat for crappy White Sox teams. Any manager who manages losing teams year after year is going to face hostility from the fanbase. Most criticisms about Ventura were hindsight criticisms about bullpen management, the usual complaints managers get. My issue with Ricky is not that the White Sox are losing, it's that he seems to have no idea what the hell he is doing. He can be a fine bench coach but that's it. Once again it calls into question the ownership that they felt the need to unnecessarily gave him an extension prior to this season.

It seems like RIcky wants to prove that lineup construction doesn't matter.  So he is putting together the worst lineups possible and see if they can win.  

1 minute ago, JuliusO1274 said:

Ventura was never as bad as Ricky. Ventura was more of a scapegoat for crappy White Sox teams. Any manager who manages losing teams year after year is going to face hostility from the fanbase. Most criticisms about Ventura were hindsight criticisms about bullpen management, the usual complaints managers get. My issue with Ricky is not that the White Sox are losing, it's that he seems to have no idea what the hell he is doing. He can be a fine bench coach but that's it. Once again it calls into question the ownership that they felt the need to unnecessarily gave him an extension prior to this season.

Or that they hired him without interviewing anyone else.  

"  Hmm.... Well, you're already here, so I guess you're the coach.  I really don't want to move."

There are so many bad hitters in that lineup. How the hell are we sniffing .500?

25 minutes ago, greg775 said:

There are so many bad hitters in that lineup. How the hell are we sniffing .500?

 

26 minutes ago, greg775 said:

There are so many bad hitters in that lineup. How the hell are we sniffing .500?

Because there are 15 teams in the AL and only 5 have records better than .500

Sox only compete in the 4ALC games. Forget the rest. 

3 hours ago, SCCWS said:

 

Because there are 15 teams in the AL and only 5 have records better than .500

Also the lineup on the whol has been above average anyway

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